Sign up with GoogleWould it be better if Bosman hits a 4 of the 1st ball then goes out, Boucher score 11 of 9 balls, Pollock 12 of 2 balls and Kemp 23 of 15 balls compared to Kallis with a steady 50 of 65 balls??????????????????
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Would it be better if Bosman hits a 4 of the 1st ball then goes out, Boucher score 11 of 9 balls, Pollock 12 of 2 balls and Kemp 23 of 15 balls compared to Kallis with a steady 50 of 65 balls??????????????????
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I am frustrated man!
Kallis does have such talent but it is wasted in the one-day game, and the 5-day version is steadily losing popularity and value, except in England it seems...
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But their strike rate would be over 100! You're missing the point here!
No, you are..
*sigh
Anyway,
Who are us humble school & club cricketers to argue with Barry Richards....
Yes.... Barry Richards, great SA Batsmen Barry Richards:
http://www.supercricket.co.za/default.asp?id=209957&des=article&scat=supercricket/sateam
Who are us humble school & club cricketers to argue with Barry Richards....
Yes.... Barry Richards, great SA Batsmen Barry Richards:
http://www.supercricket.co.za/default.asp?id=209957&des=article&scat=supercricket/sateam
depends on the context of game.. kallis is like the turtle/tortoise in the race.. sure he will get there, but will the race be over already? e.g. in the stri lanka game it was fine, in the game vs aussies it would also be fine IF everyone else was scoring nicely.. but thats like a 15 ball difference, compared to his normal 25-30+ ball difference
In either scenario when chasing a lot of runs you lose. At least when people try and score quickly they don't build pressure on their batting partner and that also keep the game alive. And you know what? Australia have shown for many years now that throwing caution to the wind and actually just going for it more often than not pays off. The 438 game aside, the modern ODI game has changed in the face of Power Plays and Pro20. Kallis struggles in games where high scores are needed, and those players around him succumb to the added pressure. This is not speculation - it's fact, and it's exactly what happened in SA vs Aus last time round.
Explain how if we win we could get a negative run rate, I would love to hear this one. And I think it is you that is not understanding something here
Last nights game is a good example.. Kallis came out, took his chances and scored quite fast with smith. Then as soon as smith left he slowed down but maintained a good rate till he got to 50, after that he was like slow. while at the other end e.g. Prince who is not a hitter, tried running a few here and there and saw that it was not gonna work as well and then started taking chances..
Its almost as if kallis relies on the other batsmen entirely.. so if the other one hits a boundry and a single in the 1st 2 balls kallisjust looks to block and perhaps score a single.. he does not look for a boundry.
Its almost as if kallis relies on the other batsmen entirely.. so if the other one hits a boundry and a single in the 1st 2 balls kallisjust looks to block and perhaps score a single.. he does not look for a boundry.
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Stats:
Kallis - Last 50 ODI's for SA where we have WON
Batting average: 65.20
100's: 5
50's: 13
Bowling average: 28.69
Wickets: 43
Kallis - Last 50 ODI's for SA where we have LOST
Batting average: 41.06
100's: 3
50's: 12
Bowling average: 50.23
Wickets: 38
Career - 252 games
Batting average: 45.60
100's: 15
50's: 61
Bowling average: 31.53
Wickets: 226
Bottom line: he does well, we win. Regardless of his strike rate being 71, 72, 69, 83, 102. His role, as a batsman, is to bat through the innings. The coaches say that, the captain says that, most of the commentators say that.
Kallis - Last 50 ODI's for SA where we have WON
Batting average: 65.20
100's: 5
50's: 13
Bowling average: 28.69
Wickets: 43
Kallis - Last 50 ODI's for SA where we have LOST
Batting average: 41.06
100's: 3
50's: 12
Bowling average: 50.23
Wickets: 38
Career - 252 games
Batting average: 45.60
100's: 15
50's: 61
Bowling average: 31.53
Wickets: 226
Bottom line: he does well, we win. Regardless of his strike rate being 71, 72, 69, 83, 102. His role, as a batsman, is to bat through the innings. The coaches say that, the captain says that, most of the commentators say that.
Actually it works like this:Explain how if we win we could get a negative run rate, I would love to hear this one. And I think it is you that is not understanding something here
Team A goes in and scores 200 in 40 overs - run rate: 5
Team B goes in, scores 201 in 47 overs (run rate: 4.3), thereby resulting in a win and a negative run rate (-0.7)
Nope afraid you wrong there. The run rate is calculated as if they had scored their runs over the full 50 overs.
Team A goes in and scores 200 in 40 overs - run rate: 4
Team B goes in, scores 201 in 47 overs (run rate: 4.3), thereby resulting in a win and Nett run rate of 0.3
Is it really fact?
5th ODI: South Africa v Australia at Johannesburg, 12 Mar 2006
Kallis: 20 runs off 21 balls
AB: 14 off 20
Kemp: 13 off 17
Last game we played vs Aus it was. Period.
*edit mis-read the post*
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