3.1 - will it bring back some spark?

[RoosTa]

I enjoyed leveling and gearing up in Wotlk, got my money's worth, but raiding has lost its soul. I tried getting into the whole achievements thing, but it just didn't grab me.

I think WoW lost its magic, because I've been "sober" for 2 months now and I canceled my subs without even thinking about it. I mean; I love wow, my guild, raiding, reading wow insider in the mornings, trolling the forums etc, but it seems that wotlk has cured my addiction. Maybe its because its gone too casual and I don't feel obliged to grind to progress. Or that there are no steep walls to climb; like attunements, resistance gear (Saph was a joke), steep learning curve encounters or really difficult bosses - we one-shotted Saph and Kel after reading the tactics straight off of WoW-wiki. Vehicles, was the only thing that made Malygos difficult.

Raiding so far in wotlk was just too easy and unsatisfactory.

Achievements is also a problem, because many people raid for the welfare loot and can't be bothered with achievements. Since achievements are purely optional, it puts a brake on 'progression'. Using achievements as 'progression' is not nearly as rewarding as it was in the past.

I don't know if 3.1 will be enough to pull me back they have ruined what I used to enjoy. Though for now, I am focused on my job (deadlines) and RL issues and (sadly) I'm not missing WoW.

 

[dal2000]

People come, people go. Thats how it is. No-one will live in WoW forever.
All that should matter is if you are enjoying the content they throw at you. If not, ur forcing yrself to play for what?

I think the new patch will bring some of the essence you are talking about on your first post.

 

[Joker]

I think the new patch will bring some of the essence you are talking about on your first post.

I don't know.. sure we'll have Ulduar and 3.1 patch content to play around with for the first month, but once it's cleared then we're all back to where we are now, in this lull.

I'm still very keen to check out Ulduar, I think it'll be great. But my problem is once an instance is cleared and I've experienced it all I have little motivation left. Basically I end up just logging in for the raid nights - solely to gear-grind in preparation for the next raid content, but my hearts not in it.

 

[dal2000]

I see what your are getting at. The fact is, you have played WoW. Cleared most of WoW. Its unfortunate that you will get bored. Thats how it is with anything in life. Ppl get sick of cars, they buy a new one. You get sick of anything, you want something new. The problem here is that people love WoW so much, they cant accept the fact that its them that have seen and played everything and are now bored. These ppl would rather blame the game by saying its becoming old and nothing new and that its dying etc etc.

 

[Oculate]

We recently zerged through AQ40... great fun. Some shiny vanilla drops brought back good memories. Then we hit the twin emperors... and they brought back the bad memories

 

[RoosTa]

Well, it took us 1 day to clear 6 bosses in Naxx (25-man) in contrast to 2 days of raiding for Gruul and 6 days to down Magtheridon. It's also the fact that you can walse into Naxx just having dinged 80 with some blues. There are no hurdles, just welfare epics. Wotlk is just a flat line - everyone stays on the same level regardless of how good you are.

 

[Abe]

Well, it took us 1 day to clear 6 bosses in Naxx (25-man) in contrast to 2 days of raiding for Gruul and 6 days to down Magtheridon. It's also the fact that you can walse into Naxx just having dinged 80 with some blues. There are no hurdles, just welfare epics. Wotlk is just a flat line - everyone stays on the same level regardless of how good you are.

Yep, I think they screwed up by removing atunement.

 

[Oculate]

Well, it took us 1 day to clear 6 bosses in Naxx (25-man) in contrast to 2 days of raiding for Gruul and 6 days to down Magtheridon. It's also the fact that you can walse into Naxx just having dinged 80 with some blues. There are no hurdles, just welfare epics. Wotlk is just a flat line - everyone stays on the same level regardless of how good you are.

+1, bring back the epic vashj/kael fights, bring back the attunements and bring back the bloody progression wall!

A couple hours after giving up on downing the Twins, I was pug invited to a HKM + Gruul + Maggie run. Note the pug was utterly useless:

HKM killed half the raid due to the mage being left to aoe everyone, down the last 2 adds and HKM with 10 guys.
No-one cared to explain gruul shatter tacts, resulting in 13/20 players dying in the first slam
Maggie was fun, the adds dropped in under 1:30min, and we waited around for the timer to expire

I at least had a blast

 

[EchoZA]

myslef... I miss the MC runs and the AQ40 runs back then it was planning, planning, planning!!! Now days... bleh! My subs have lapsed and I'm in no rush to renew them!

 

[Oculate]

myslef... I miss the MC runs and the AQ40 runs back then it was planning, planning, planning!!! Now days... bleh! My subs have lapsed and I'm in no rush to renew them!

Every reset I go on 2man (for company) runs to ZG for the mounts/rep

 

[zippy]

people will eventually get tired of the game and move on. Others replace them. such is life. This may sound odd, but but new kids are born every day and those born 11 years ago are hitting the wow age now(my nephew who asks me for boosts being one of them). And its not just the younger players. Older players are signing up for the first time as well. We have recently recruited some over 18 age new players who fit in just fine, If you get tired of the game go and play something different, or not. whatever

 

[Soulreaver]

reading some of the older posts in this thread about EVE got me quite interested about the game. can anyone give me some info on the game? like where to buy it, how much does it cost every month and how many patches are there etc. etc.

 

[Necuno]

+1, bring back the epic vashj/kael fights, bring back the attunements and bring back the bloody progression wall!

you are playing to wrong game then. wow is all for the casual joe now who wants to come in at anytime and feel that he / she is the ****. . maybe and thats if enough people leave blizzard will rethink some of their donkey stradegies and stop catering from the 12 year old snot noses. i wish they would have a few vinilla servers- it may be long time off, but wow will evetually implode.

 

[Blatman]

Unfortunately even if 1 million people left the game of say 12 million and that included every semi/hard core raider there would still be R11 mllion odd people happy to run around as a DK one-shotting everything. Which is still a pretty good business model.

Hmm as a second though if you have something for the 1 million that leave, that potentially is also a good business model

 

[Skurm]

Personally my conspiracy theory of the day is that Blizzard is preparing for a mass migration to the new mmo. I think it's pretty obvious that at least half, maybe more people who play WoW will jump ship to their new MMO, which is probably still a couple years down the line. Those who stay on in WoW will not have access to the same level of resources that the currently highly populated world enjoys, so to get anywhere may require smaller and easier raids.

 

[Syzygy78]

I am not saying it is the case here, but ALOT of people who moan and complain about easy content have not cleared all of Wotlk. I have to hear how easy OS is, but most people haven't cleared it in 10/25 man with 3 Drakes up. Still, many have not even done Malygos yet. Granted, Malygos is easy if everyone knows what they are doing. Have you tried to PUG Malygos 25? Its just like HoL, PUG it and most times you fail. Go on a guild run, and Loken is one shotted.

Sure WOW has changed and people complain of "welfare epics", but there is also an ilevel you know. There is a massive difference between an ilevel 200 epic and an ilevel 226 epic.

I am not one of those guys who has played WOW for 2, 3 or maybe 4 years. I am pretty certain that you would only play for 4 years if you are in a good guild with good friends else you would have left ages ago. Dal2000 makes a good point

I do think 3.1 will be good for WOW.

One last note, I challenge those who say the content is super easy to link up their armory. If you have cleared all Wotlk, I will say you have a right to make a fair comment, but if not... you are probably just one of those types of people that love joining the QQ train

 

[Pitbull]

I am not saying it is the case here, but ALOT of people who moan and complain about easy content have not cleared all of Wotlk. I have to hear how easy OS is, but most people haven't cleared it in 10/25 man with 3 Drakes up. Still, many have not even done Malygos yet. Granted, Malygos is easy if everyone knows what they are doing. Have you tried to PUG Malygos 25? Its just like HoL, PUG it and most times you fail. Go on a guild run, and Loken is one shotted.

Sure WOW has changed and people complain of "welfare epics", but there is also an ilevel you know. There is a massive difference between an ilevel 200 epic and an ilevel 226 epic.

I am not one of those guys who has played WOW for 2, 3 or maybe 4 years. I am pretty certain that you would only play for 4 years if you are in a good guild with good friends else you would have left ages ago. Dal2000 makes a good point

I do think 3.1 will be good for WOW.

One last note, I challenge those who say the content is super easy to link up their armory. If you have cleared all Wotlk, I will say you have a right to make a fair comment, but if not... you are probably just one of those types of people that love joining the QQ train

I think it was mentioned a little earlier in the thread and I agree 100%.

People (Myself included) have been playing WoW for a very long time. We're actually sick of the game and blame it on the game itself. Which is not the case. I have realized that I have outgrown WoW now to a point of no return.

The game is brilliant, but if you've been playing it for 3 years or longer the game will not entertain you like it did when you first played it. It's not the game, it's us.

WoW is a brilliant game, it's just not my cup of tea no more. The same thing every day for 3 years does get a little monotonous

 

[Pornolio]

Sure WOW has changed and people complain of "welfare epics", but there is also an ilevel you know. There is a massive difference between an ilevel 200 epic and an ilevel 226 epic.

I wouldnt put money on that statement.

Its dependant on class + current stats. Just to give you an example, the best trinket in game for a hunter, and there is no trinket in even ulduar that surpasses it, is the Nobles trinket - Greatness with agility proc boost. This is a iLevel 200. That baby murders iLevel 226 epic's on dps boosts.
Same with the ring that drops from malygos 10 man - Surge Needle ring. Best in slot for a hunter. Just because its a iLevel 226 does not make it better always ! And to all the hunters that still havent gotten a hold of your grim toll - Wait till 3.1 hits and you see just how bad-ass that trinket will be !

 

[WiT8litZ]

Well said Pitbull, I agree

I do agree with content being too easy also.
I want Sunwell back.
I want 6m10s Brutallus kills.

Now that was raiding

 

[Syzygy78]

I wouldnt put money on that statement.

Its dependant on class + current stats. Just to give you an example, the best trinket in game for a hunter, and there is no trinket in even ulduar that surpasses it, is the Nobles trinket - Greatness with agility proc boost. This is a iLevel 200. That baby murders iLevel 226 epic's on dps boosts.
Same with the ring that drops from malygos 10 man - Surge Needle ring. Best in slot for a hunter. Just because its a iLevel 226 does not make it better always ! And to all the hunters that still havent gotten a hold of your grim toll - Wait till 3.1 hits and you see just how strong that trinket will be !

Yea sure, you have pointed out an isolated case. Some of the Ulduar items aren't itemised as well as some classes would like. However, generally speaking, an ilevel 226 item will be better than an ilevel200 item. There is no way I will swap my turning tide back for a grieving spellblade. Just remember, the items you have seen on wowhead.com and perhaps mmo-champion are not an exhaustive list. Those are items that have been observed in game on the ptr. It is quite possible that there are many more items that have yet to be discovered.