ADSL hard capping kicks in

[Creag]

My hope rests in the future. A future without the constant shena****ns of Telkom. A future free of their fierce monopolistic grip on us all.

 

[mikef]

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but people were taking bandwidth that they weren't entitled to, and are now complaining that they no longer get their "free" bandwidth?.

TBH, I am surprised Telkom let this carry on as long as they did.

B

You wrong

 

[Seamus6917]

Just like I said in the Braodband pricing thread...

Pusher and Junkie. Supply a service. Over deliver for a while. AKA - getting them hooked.
Drop back to the promised service. The junkie will do anything for his fix.

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but people were taking bandwidth that they weren't entitled to, and are now complaining that they no longer get their "free" bandwidth?.

At the prices we pay. Some may feel vindicated.

They. Telkom (and iBurst did the same) used this pusher/junkie model to make more money.

My feeling is if I say I will supply you with 1GB, then that is what I must supply. No more and definitely no less. As the proprietor of the service it is in my own interest to limit you my client to the amount of data I charged (and you paid) for.

To 'let' the data run over... Well, that is an odd practice... Or a loop hole.

 

[drukkie]

Excellent! Cut off those buggers who feel the bandwidth available to all is theirs to milk. Let us all pay for what we use, fair and square.

go jump in a lake...

 

[Kosmik]

go jump in a lake...

Mature.

The issue is not their hard capping. The issue is their dishonesty.

While I am not a Telkom fanboy, how were they dishonest in this? They've stated what they are going to do and are now implementing it. Where's the dishonesty.

Their relaxed capping had nothing to do with incompetence but was a stated policy of allowing users requiring more data to download the estimated unused data of other users who downloaded less than their allocated cap. Nobody lost (other than perhaps the ISP) as just as with most ISPs unused data on a monthly contract (not prepaid) is lost.

That sounds like a lot more work than neccesary to provide a free, unwarranted service. I think I'll stick to my incompetance model

 

[mikef]

While I am not a Telkom fanboy, how were they dishonest in this? They've stated what they are going to do and are now implementing it. Where's the dishonesty.

AFAIK they have not formally communicated anything to their customers iro these changes. On their website and on the usage notification emails they still state that once the formal cap is used up you are placed in the "shared pool".

That sounds like a lot more work than neccesary to provide a free, unwarranted service. I think I'll stick to my incompetance model

As a marketing strategy it is effective and has most likely earned them many informed customers.

In addition their incompetence resulted in many users getting a lot more data than they intended - this is a separate issue.

 

[nelwa]

AFAIK they have not formally communicated anything to their customers iro these changes. On their website and on the usage notification emails they still state that once the formal cap is used up you are placed in the "shared pool".

It's not so much about the communication, but rather the "free" over usage, like vodacom currently has...they get you hooked on using more bandwidth every month, and then tada, they take it away, so that you either suffer some serious withdrawal symptoms, or need to fork out more...

Luckily Telkom upscaled everybody's usage for free...well except for the poor 1GB account users...

 

[Mineer]

lol Telkom the only company to give ppl what they want but still ppl complain yes this maybe pusher/junkie model but only the 1 gig ppl are getting less but for extra 70 bucks they could get an extra 2 gig to satisfy their dependence on cap

most ISP's including telkom sell 1 gig at 70bucks so u still score

P.s.
Not talking bout service delivery pls ... in this area they can still improve ......ALOT!!!!!

 

[MidnightWizard]

Capped -- Uncapped -- Blended -- Local ?????

Please excuse my confusion.

OK if you have a DO 3 -- 5Gb International (blended) 50Gb local

In normal use you start by useing up your 5Gb -- which is blended -- so if you go to a lot of local sites ( in your initial period of useage ) --
Poof -- your 5 Gb blended is finished and no more access to International sites

Now you start using your local 50 Gb ............

Is this the way it works

===========

With all the PT with trying to split / shape / route traffic why do we not just get given TWO accounts.

eg. ONE from TelkomSA.net ( International -- 5GB ) & another from SAIX ( local only -- 50 Gb)

I mean SAIX IS TELKOM -- why take out and pay for another account. Pay once get TWO accouts / logins

Set up your router with two "accounts" -- route all local traffic to the SAIX account -- route all other traffic to TelkomSA account.

Use wisely and download stuff from the local mirrors ( SAIX )

See here for where the "interesting" discussion takes place IS Labs

&

where someone is offering SAIX LOCAL ONLY accounts

• You get first-class ADSL's to resell to your clients at your own price.
• Cap from 0.5GIG to 30GIG.
• We also supply Local connectivity only via SAIX
• You can change passwords.
• You can add SAIX ADSL Plus to for your ADSL.
• NO need for any mail servers.

SAIX ONLY

Does this make any sense


MW

 

[MidnightWizard]

Small site Multi-Homing -- with NAT and Static routes

Seeing as I have only had one small nibble..........

Here is the whole story <spelled> out for you -- with pictures and configs

Using Route-Map and Multiple ISP's to split traffic

Lazy so & so's


MW

 

[Underworld]

Please excuse my confusion.

OK if you have a DO 3 -- 5Gb International (blended) 50Gb local

In normal use you start by useing up your 5Gb -- which is blended -- so if you go to a lot of local sites ( in your initial period of useage ) --
Poof -- your 5 Gb blended is finished and no more access to International sites

Now you start using your local 50 Gb ............

Is this the way it works

===========

With all the PT with trying to split / shape / route traffic why do we not just get given TWO accounts.

eg. ONE from TelkomSA.net ( International -- 5GB ) & another from SAIX ( local only -- 50 Gb)

I mean SAIX IS TELKOM -- why take out and pay for another account. Pay once get TWO accouts / logins

Set up your router with two "accounts" -- route all local traffic to the SAIX account -- route all other traffic to TelkomSA account.

Use wisely and download stuff from the local mirrors ( SAIX )

See here for where the "interesting" discussion takes place IS Labs

&

where someone is offering SAIX LOCAL ONLY accounts



Does this make any sense


MW

On the Do3 package you get 30 GB local data for free not 50 GB. Best go read www.telkomsa.net

 

[MidnightWizard]

A tale of Two CAPS

On the Do3 package you get 30 GB local data for free not 50 GB. Best go read www.telkomsa.net

Hhhmmm -- is that so 5Gb blended & only 30Gb local -- SO unfair

Would you like to address yourself to the main thrust of the post <???>

Information which you are unlikely to find at TELKOMSA.NET :erm:


MW

 

[MFour]

Yes, viva competition hey :erm:

 

[lexis]

First the dial-up became so slow that we were forced to upgrade to ADSL 1Gig.
Then we got used to 1,5 Gig. They hardcapped and we were forced to move up to the 3 Gig package. (At R59 for 2Gig extra it still remains the cheapest alternative.)
Now it seems to me that my 384 account is getting slower as more people migrate to ADSL.
Next we will be forced to ....

 

[PeterCH]

Who remembers the good ol days when Axxess would hook you up with 10,20 or even 30gig accounts

Why did that fall away? Did Telscum increase the cost of b/w to the ISPs or
what was the reason?