ADSL problems today?

rpm · Oct 27, 2003

Hi there

Are you guys also experiencing very slow speeds, locally and internationally? I am struggling to open even IOL or other local sites.

Regards,

RPM
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kaspaas · Oct 27, 2003

Same here - access to M-Web and family is just as bad.

So much for Telkom delivering "Best Effort"..

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rpm
 Hi there

Are you guys also experiencing very slow speeds, locally and internationally? I am struggling to open even IOL or other local sites.

Regards,

RPM
[email protected]
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VQuest · Oct 27, 2003

Same here.

"Best Effort" for Telkom = No Effort. I can't believe they've been getting away with this shoddy service for so long. The sad part is it's getting worse and worse. I've only had my ADSL for a few months and it's gone from good to bad to absolutely terrible.

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fanusj · Oct 27, 2003

Same here - even local traffic sucks !! What is happening ? [?]

ProAsm · Oct 29, 2003

The last time I saw a local download above 40KB was about 3 weeks ago, but my uploads are still sitting at 54KB solid - wierd.

alex · Nov 2, 2003

this problems arnt just today they everyday *sigh*

Dtox · Nov 3, 2003

Well with this being the beginning of the month and everyone freely downloading again, this probably gives us a good indication of what performance would be like for the whole month if there was no capping.
There is just not enough international bandwidth, with Telkom declaring all these massive Profits, Surely they can fork some of it out and buy more bandwidth.

rpm · Nov 3, 2003

Hi DTox

Very good point and I am certain practically every ADSL user feels this way. This is why a strong users group is needed. They show massive profits, and how else do they make these profits than overcharging customers? This would have been acceptable if the services were great, but we are sitting with an overpriced service that is way below par. They have no competition, and the only people that can take any sort of action are the users. I also suspect that Telkom decreases the international bandwidth to uncapped users as other users get capped. One would expect great improvements at the end of the month, but this is not the case.

Regards,

RPM
[email protected]

microfast · Nov 3, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dtox
... this probably gives us a good indication of what performance would be like for the whole month if there was no capping.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Hi Dtox,

Cap or no Cap - there will be no difference to performance.

Power users cannot make any significant difference to the available bandwidth and the problems we experience lie elsewhere.

ISPs across the world do not have any Cap and are easily able to deliver bandwidth to all their customers with little or no problems.

Telkom is just not a world class player and cannot deliver a reliable, stable service to its customers on a consistant basis.

10 000 adsl users is small fry -
Consider what will happen when Telkom sells up to 200 000 accounts in the next few years.

Right now Telkom should have bandwidth capacity for at least 50 000 adsl users and we should be flying 24 hours a day.

Something is rotten in the state of Telkomia

bryanmayhew · Nov 3, 2003

I have carefully measured and recorded my ADSL speed for the last 4 months - today is the slowest in erms of speed ever! - and its been that way all day.
Something is wrong

VQuest · Nov 3, 2003

Today is terribly slow for me too.

Speed: 20.57 kbits/sec

So I'm paying R1000 to get 2.5kB/sec? Good grief.

neobyte · Nov 3, 2003

I agree. Mid day today was extemely slow. Seems to have picked up a bit recently though. My international connection earlier was returning timeouts on almost every page. Wish someone would let us know what was happening? Service schedules etc?

I think we have made a very good point here. It is not so much the expense of telkom for the international bandwidth. I think they just can't handle it.

I can picture their poor IT staff dreading the start of every month. Sitting with private fans just to cool their servers down.

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Kryon · Nov 5, 2003

Hey Guys

Have just phoned telkom to find out about the slow international speeds. Apparently the fibre optic cables running overseas have been damaged. A ship is being dispatched within the week to FIX the problem. [

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HiHat · Nov 7, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by microfast

Cap or no Cap - there will be no difference to performance.

Power users cannot make any significant difference to the available bandwidth and the problems we experience lie elsewhere.

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It's a simple matter of International bandwidth. South Africa just doesn't have a lot. It is getting better all the time but the demand is always larger.

Another limitation is the bandwidth from your exchange to SAIX. If your exchange has only 2Mbit and you are unlucky enough to have a large number of Kazaa hogs on your exchange then you will suffer.

The cap is very neccessary at the moment. Imagine if all the Kazaa kippies had no limits, they would just leave their PC's on, downloading crap they will never use and wasting the bandwidth.

So, on a lighter note, who has not seen the "Gateway Timeout" page?

Apple // Forever.

microfast · Nov 7, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by HiHat
The cap is very neccessary at the moment. Imagine if all the Kazaa kippies had no limits, they would just leave their PC's on, downloading crap they will never use and wasting the bandwidth.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I disagree - there can be no such thing as wasted bandwidth.

Every customer that pays for a service is entitled to the service and to use it as he/she pleases.
This is a basic right.

"Kazaa kippies" are customers and they pay for their services.

The CAP is not necessary at all.

What is necessary is greater allocation of bandwidth to all users -
if it is not available it must be obtained - it is there to be had.

btw - I do not use kazaa or the like.

microfast · Nov 7, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> ....of International bandwidth. South Africa just doesn't have a lot. It is getting better all the time but the demand is always larger.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Well, if this is the case it is about time Telkom / SAIX made sure that supply is always greater than demand - a basic necessity for any provider of internet services.

The supply is there to be had.

microfast · Nov 7, 2003

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by HiHat
Another limitation is the bandwidth from your exchange to SAIX. If your exchange has only 2Mbit and you are unlucky enough to have a large number of Kazaa hogs on your exchange then you will suffer.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

HiHat,

R1000.00 + is for real - we are all paying real money -
we are entitled to real service and if Telkom does not have real equipment
then they should not accept my real money.

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