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You take the words right out of my mouth, the consumer gets shafted
savage
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Which brings up another interesting point in my mind over this whole debacle... As an ISP, or wait nevermind that, as a company who's SOLE BUSINESS FUNCTION relies on the Internet (i.e. if you are internet-less, you close your doors)... Who in their RIGHT MIND puts all their eggs in one single basket? (not directed at IPC, but connectivity in general, or business operations in general)
What is becoming obvious to me in this saga, is that Afrihost's hands are tied due to their partnership with MTN. The fact of the matter is that when MTN has issues, Afrihost has issues... If Afrihost doesn't see that as a risk... Seriously? Is it really as simple in that Afrihost is merely a reseller of MTN's products, and that in fact, Afrihost does not even own IPC capacity (it is all owned, operated, and controlled by MTN) and Afrihost is just the reseller who's AAA says yay or nay when a authentication request comes in ? (lack of feedback from telkom, lack of a dedicated telkom account manager, lack of public peering by afrihost *itself*, piles and piles of references and reliance to mtn...)
Well... It's not definitive, but it SURE looks like Afrihost gave their IP blocks to MTN to assign to their users (from back when when they had their own IPC if I recall correctly), and MTN now simply assign their IP addresses to customers on MTN's network and equipment. Exactly the same way as Telkom would provide IPC to IS - just another finger in the pie...
TELKOM - IPC - IS - Direct and/or reseller (this is normal)
TELKOM - IPC - MTN - AFRIHOST - Direct and/or reseller (Afrihost).
Charming. More fingers in the pie, ofcourse it means more hoops to jump through and more problems...
MTN is announcing Afrihost's IP addresses, instead of Afrihost announcing it directly, which is why I am making this conclusion. Again - it is merely an observation, it is not definitive. So yes, in reality, Afrihost is a reseller, and does not own their own IPC capacity. This would also explain why they are not forth coming about refunds, as what ever refund we get, will obviously be dependant on what refund Afrihost gets from MTN (if any). Again - *if* I am right, this ENTIRE THING could have been avoided if Afrihost just played open cards from the beginning...
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cortexenslaver
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Derek Hershaw
HAHAHAHAHA
So true.... but wait, I better not say anything... MWEB might cancel my account
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Fudzy
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I hope all these non relevant posts are deleted.
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Fudzy
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What is the latest on the IPC upgrades which are meant to be in place on the 10th? Does it just serve the south or the entire network?
cortexenslaver
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non relevant?
savage
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Just the south as far as I know - and they are "trying something new" in terms of how they manage capacity. If it's successfull in the south, it will apparently be rolled out country wide. And no, other than the 10th - nothing new has been forthcoming.
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Fudzy
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What does Derek Hershaw have to do with Afrihost uncapped feedback?
EDIT: I'm not making another off-topic post.
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cortexenslaver
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Apparently the South... but I think it won't be enough, North is already having issues... the shaping is starting again up there
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Fudzy
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Does anyone have an overlay of these pipes on a map of SA?
cortexenslaver
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savage
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It's somewhere on their web site... http://www.afrihost.com/microsites/adsl_network/
And how more I look at it and think about it, the more certain I am becoming that Afrihost is indeed just a reseller. They ARE one step up from the normal reselers (say OpenWeb) in that they use their own IP ranges, but other than their own IP ranges, they are no different than any other reseller out there. Afrihost is (to my knowledge) also the only reseller operating in this way, which does make them unique yes - but it obviously also have its drawbacks and problems associated with it given the situation we are in.
This makes for some rather interesting thinking on my side, I must confess (and no, not thinking about Afrihost or IPC
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i.got~issues
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Fudzy
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It's somewhere on their web site... http://www.afrihost.com/microsites/adsl_network/
And how more I look at it and think about it, the more certain I am becoming that Afrihost is indeed just a reseller. They ARE one step up from the normal reselers (say OpenWeb) in that they use their own IP ranges, but other than their own IP ranges, they are no different than any other reseller out there. Afrihost is (to my knowledge) also the only reseller operating in this way, which does make them unique yes - but it obviously also have its drawbacks and problems associated with it given the situation we are in.
This makes for some rather interesting thinking on my side, I must confess (and no, not thinking about Afrihost or IPC
Thanks, but wouldn't that mean PE customers are affected too? Are there any PE customers here having issues?
savage
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Yes. I recall users as far as Durban complaining. If I recall correctly, Afrihost said the "south region" includes all coastal areas.
i.got~issues
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Clientzone down again...
TBH I think there are issues that we are not being told about not just IPC
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Fudzy
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+1 Durban here.
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