Afrihost FAIL : It's not uncapped it's 200gb account

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Afrihost dissapoints with misleading advertising.

If you download more than 200gb on their "uncapped" service they will cut you off.

Shame on you Afrihost!

Their uncapped disclaimer clearly states that this is not an Uncapped account.

"*UNLIMITED DATA: You can use as much data as you want. Our uncapped service is designed for someone sitting in front of their computer using the internet as much as they want. It is not designed for computer programs that are setup to continuously download 24/7, 30 days a month. If it is your intention to setup programs to download every hour of the day, every day of the month then these uncapped packages are not for you. We reserve the right to terminate any account whose usage affects our other clients internet experience negatively. We reserve the right to investigate and possibly terminate any account that moves over 200 GBs per month. Our primary concern is for the majority of our clients. If there are individuals that are putting strain on the network through their downloading habits and in so doing affecting our other clients negatively we reserve the right to stop offering them the service.

*INSTANT ACTIVATION: Existing Afrihost clients will be instantly activated. New clients will need to take one extra step to verify their details by faxing or emailing through a photo or copy of either their ID or driver's licence after which their account will be activated."
 
YA STFU for sure.

Amazing how South Africans when given something really nice bitch and moan, no wonder we get raped.
 
it's called fair usage, exists in first world countries, but afrihost updated their page and says they won't cap you unless you use 100's of gigs per month.
 
200gigs would normally cost you R3800 @ R19 per gig... now R2.48 with a bit of shaping and in the guise of an uncapped account. I don't think it's unreasonable...
 
If you really are desperate for an uncapped line, do get a Diginet line installed on your premises.

Now that's true uncapped for you.
 
the op does have a point. some of the people are quick to forget what happened on the sol matrix case where they would also state uncapped and they had to remove their product in accordance with ASASA's ruling.

have a read.



http://www.asasa.org.za/ResultDetail.aspx?Ruling=3957

SolMatrix / D I Wise & Another / 9956
Ruling of the : ASA Directorate
In the matter between: Mr David I Wise Mr R J Theunissen Complainant(s)/Appellant(s)
SolMatrix (Pty) Ltd Respondent

22 Nov 2007

Consumer complaints were lodged against a Solmatrix Internet advertisement promoting its DSL Xtreme packages. The advertisement was published at www.solmatrix.co.za.

The advertisement states, inter alia, “DSLXtreme packages provides Uncapped data traffic, subject to our Uncapped Fair Usage Policy.”

COMPLAINTS
In essence, the complainants submitted that the advertisement is misleading as the word “uncapped” implies limitless access, but the accounts do have a bandwidth limit and are therefore not uncapped.

RELEVANT CLAUSE OF THE CODE OF ADVERTISING PRACTICE
In light of the complaints Clause 4.2.1 of Section II (Misleading claims) was taken into account.

RESPONSE
The respondent, submitted, inter alia, that its service is uncapped as every customer that conforms to the “Fair User Policy” will potentially have continuous uninterrupted data transfer with no set data cap or bandwidth cap.

The respondent further submitted that it does not believe that most of the content on its website is advertising as it uses its website to interact with existing and potential customers. Most of its business processes, including opening accounts, ordering services, etc. are all conducted via its website utilising online database services.

ASA DIRECTORATE RULING
The ASA Directorate considered all the relevant documentation as submitted by the respective parties.

Jurisdiction
The Directorate notes the respondent’s concern regarding editorial content versus advertising material on its website. As the ASA only has jurisdiction over advertising, it may only consider and rule on matters relating to advertising.

It must be clarified that the Directorate does not regard all website content as advertising, only the content that meets the criteria of what constitutes an advertisement, as defined by the Code.

Clause 4 of Section I defines an advertisement as “any visual or aural communication, representation, reference or notification of any kind which is intended to promote the sale, leasing or use of any goods or services; or which appeals for or promotes the support of any cause”. It further clarifies that promotional content of display material, menus, labels, and packaging also fall within the definition.

The part of the respondent’s website in dispute is used, inter alia, to describe its products and their benefits. The page in question is solely dedicated to DSL Xtreme, its attributes and pricing. In addition, the page emphasises the “uncapped” accounts, which is used to convince the reader that this is a good product to purchase. The respondent itself confirms that the site is used to interact within “existing and potential clients” (our emphasis). This information is therefore clearly intended to promote the sale and use of this product to the respondent’s existing customers and potential ones, and therefore constitutes advertising in terms of the Code.

Based on the above, the material falls within the jurisdiction of the ASA and the Directorate may consider it.

Merits
Clause 4.2.1 of Section II states that advertisements should not contain any statement or visual presentation, which directly or by implication, omission, ambiguity, inaccuracy, exaggerated claim or otherwise, is likely to mislead the consumer.

The complainants are of the opinion that the advertisement is misleading as the word “uncapped” implies limitless Internet access. However, the respondent disconnects a user if his/her data limits have been reached.

The respondent submitted that that its service is uncapped as every customer that conforms to the Fair User Policy will potentially have continuous uninterrupted data transfer with no set data cap or bandwidth cap.

In Open Web Uncapped ADSL / M B Deas and Another / 9690 (16 October 2007) where a similar issue was considered, the Directorate, taking into consideration an opinion from the Internet Service Provider’s Association (ISPA), ruled as follows:

“While ISPA accepted that some consumers might attach an incorrect interpretation to the term ‘uncapped’, it appears of the opinion that the respondent’s practice is common in the industry…The Directorate acknowledges that there is some scope for a potential customer to confuse the ‘threshold’ levels as ‘caps’, but the meaning of the limitations must be assessed in the context they appear. The claim therefore needs to be measured in the context of the respondent’s website.”

The claim “uncapped” was not ruled against, as the respondent, at worst, throttled the connection speed, but never terminated the connection entirely.

In Sentech / M Diamond / 3239 (2 November 2005) the Directorate considered the claim “unlimited” and stated “While this claim is ex facie true for the respondent’s MyWireless flexi package, the material before the Directorate indicates that it does not apply to the MyWireless classic packages, which are, by the respondent’s own admission, monitored and limited after excessive usage. The claim specifically states that the access supplied is “unlimited” with no qualifying statements as to any conditions. The reality, however, is that there are certain limitations applicable to the respondent’s services, depending on the package that one chooses.”

From the above it becomes apparent that a hypothetical reasonable person confronted with a claim such as “uncapped”, would expect never to have his connection terminated. Practices such as reducing (throttling) connection speed are often used as an alternative to capping.

With regard to the matter at hand the Directorate notes that clicking on “Uncapped Fair Usage Policy” opens a page with, inter alia, the following text:

“If, based on your chosen package, your usage in a particular month becomes excessive to the point that it will impact negatively on other users, we reserve the right to ask you to reduce the amount of data you are downloading to a minimum until the beginning of the next month. If you still need to continue with heavy downloading for the rest of the month you are welcome to purchase extra GBs of data for the purpose, or you could upgrade your package to one which is better suited to your usage requirements. Only if you ignore our reasonable request to drastically reduce your usage do we reserve the right to disable your account for the remainder of the month. Should you continuously ignore our reasonable requests to be fair in your usage of your SAIX uncapped account we reserve the right to ask you to find an alternative broadband provider” (respondent’s emphasis).

The respondent therefore monitors usage and it appears that a user is in danger of being blocked entirely from accessing Internet content once a specific amount of traffic has been transmitted. It therefore appears that there are limitations attached to usage. Such a service with limitation is usually referred as a “capped” service, as the flow of information is stopped if the user does not heed a warning to reduce usage, or if certain limits are reached.

While the Directorate accepts that the respondent may have sound business reasons for doing so, the fact remains that the product is monitored and “capped” at some point.

Based on the above the Directorate is of the opinion that the advertisement is misleading, as it appears ex facie that the service is not “uncapped” as claimed and understood by the hypothetical reasonable person.

The claim “uncapped” is therefore in contravention of Clause 4.2.1 of Section II.

Given the above finding:

* The claim “uncapped” must be withdrawn;

* The process to withdraw the claim must be actioned with immediate effect on receipt of ruling;

* The withdrawal of the claim must be completed within the deadlines stipulated by Clause 15.3 of the Procedural Guide; and

* The claim may not be used again in its current format unless the respondent provides an uncapped service.


The Directorate wishes to draw the respondent’s attention to Clause 15.5 of the Procedural Guide which states that offending claims are to be withdrawn from every medium in which they appear, notwithstanding that the complaint did not specifically refer to that particular medium.

The complaints are therefore upheld.
 
So 200GB for R500 = R2.9 p/GB . If they offer me that on a lower capped account i will jump on it.

Hmm, 30GB account for R87 ....now THAT would be awesome :)

Unfortunately, the whole business model around uncapped is based around the fact that most people don't use more than 30GB -anyway- :) . So it implies you'd be paying R500 for 10GB-30GB .
 
I have uncapped 10Mbps in the UK and I get great speed. The catch here in what you all believe is utopia and 1st world cheap broadband is AUP's. They exist and are a reality so you should learn to deal with it. My AUP states if I download more than 2Gb in certain hours I get throttled to a max of 2Mbps, that is an 80% cut on my line. This will force your max download rate to be much lower. Remember there is no such thing as unlimited or uncapped, if some one tells you that, they are lying.
 
Reasonable use clauses are pretty much par for the course.

Besides, 200gb reasonable by ZA standards. Plus they give a ballpark figure for whats unreasonable unlike that other uncapped offering.

If you download more than 200gb on their "uncapped" service they will cut you off.
You missed the part about "possibly" cut off.
 
obviously 200gb is being fair, but lets call black black and white white. at least afrihost had the balls to state an amount VS vox/mweb who are to scared ****less to point it out.
 
obviously 200gb is being fair, but lets call black black and white white. at least afrihost had the balls to state an amount VS vox/mweb who are to scared ****less to point it out.

Yes because when they point it out you get idiots who say well then it is not uncapped is it?

So how do you go about telling people your uncapped accounts have a limit, some idiots confuse uncapped with unlimited. Very easy mistake to make because the words look so similar :D.
 
I have uncapped 10Mbps in the UK and I get great speed. The catch here in what you all believe is utopia and 1st world cheap broadband is AUP's. They exist and are a reality so you should learn to deal with it. My AUP states if I download more than 2Gb in certain hours I get throttled to a max of 2Mbps, that is an 80% cut on my line. This will force your max download rate to be much lower. Remember there is no such thing as unlimited or uncapped, if some one tells you that, they are lying.

same here mate I have 8mbit uncapped from sky and I only use 80GB-120GB a month anyway
 
obviously there are 2 types of uncapped users.

the first type are those who want to use uncapped like an uncapped line is supposed to be used, and those used to paying more than 1000 a month for an uncapped 4 line service.
i fall in this first category, and I have come to expect 460kb/s downloads. I probably do about 250 gigs / month.

and the 2nd type, now more prevailant type are the lower end of the market, used to paying say R300 a month or something for less than 10 gigs, are now converting to uncapped. They probably won't use more than 30 gigs a month, and they're just happy to be able to get such a good deal for R300 a month as they can't really afford anything more than that, and they're all too happy - it's more like a free lunch to them.

Some of the ISP's with their uncapped offerings are no longer even shaping by protocol - they shape per site now so that everything from YouTube to Rapidshare are only reaching a max of 300kb/s at off peak times. Furthermore, people are getting creative with their disclaimers.

An uncapped service with a 200gb limit? Something's wrong here!
But like I said, this is probably due to a brief boat of euphoria experienced by the plebs who could never afford an uncapped service, being happy with 200gigs rather than 10 gigs.

Point is it's not an uncapped service and shouldn't be marketed as such.

I have a problem with any company advertising one thing and then offering another. One word : ICASA

Why doesn't MTN just come out with the following offer:

UNLIMITED Phonecalls per month.

Fair usage disclaimer : Those who use more than 200 minutes a month will be cut off.
 
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obviously there are 2 types of uncapped users.

the first type are those who want to use uncapped like an uncapped line is supposed to be used, and those used to paying more than 1000 a month for an uncapped 4 line service.
i fall in this first category, and I have come to expect 460kb/s downloads. I probably do about 250 gigs / month.

and the 2nd type, now more prevailant type are the lower end of the market, used to paying say R300 a month or something for less than 10 gigs, are now converting to uncapped. They probably won't use more than 30 gigs a month, and they're just happy to be able to get such a good deal for R300 a month as they can't really afford anything more than that, and they're all too happy - it's more like a free lunch to them.

Some of the ISP's with their uncapped offerings are no longer even shaping by protocol - they shape per site now so that everything from YouTube to Rapidshare are only reaching a max of 300kb/s at off peak times. Furthermore, people are getting creative with their disclaimers.

An uncapped service with a 200gb limit? Something's wrong here!
But like I said, this is probably due to a brief boat of euphoria experienced by the plebs who could never afford an uncapped service, being happy with 200gigs rather than 10 gigs.

Point is it's not an uncapped service and shouldn't be marketed as such.

I have a problem with any company advertising one thing and then offering another. One word : ICASA

Why doesn't MTN just come out with the following offer:

UNLIMITED Phonecalls per month.

Fair usage disclaimer : Those who use more than 200 minutes a month will be cut off.

Stop moaning and carry on paying for what yo have now. Your point is well beep beep beep. Now move along and let us enjoy 200gb limited uncapped accounts
 
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