All aboard the atheist bus

Morgoth said:
Charity isn't based on religion always.
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Of course it is. Charity is a central tenet of Christianity for example.
It got so hammered through the ages that people are taking it for
granted. There has also been at least one study which shows that
religious people give more money to charity.

Anyway these evangelical atheists are worse than the most ardent, stubborn
Christians who try to convince people their brand of Christianity is king.

Why can't Dawkins' supporters get it through their thick skulls that people have free will to choose for themselves if they want to believe or not.
Dawkin's himself is influenced by things. His atheism isn't a spontanous decision, something made him go atheist. Total hypocrisy.

I do know that some of these atheist book writers write for
extreme left wing newspapers too.
 
PeterCH said:
Of course it is. Charity is a central tenet of Christianity for example.
It got so hammered through the ages that people are taking it for
granted. There has also been at least one study which shows that
religious people give more money to charity.

Anyway these evangelical atheists are worse than the most ardent, stubborn
Christians who try to convince people their brand of Christianity is king.

Why can't Dawkins' supporters get it through their thick skulls that people have free will to choose for themselves if they want to believe or not.
Dawkin's himself is influenced by things. His atheism isn't a spontanous decision, something made him go atheist. Total hypocrisy.

I do know that some of these atheist book writers write for
extreme left wing newspapers too.
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central tenet they don't always practice, don't be fooled by statistics though they are the biggest lies ever If I don't recall wrong Warren buffet gave away most of his money to charity?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/26/business/26buffett.html?_r=1&oref=slogin about 80% of this money to the foundation Bill Gates made, gates being a atheist and buffet some sort of agnostic, honestly religion has nothing to do with how much you give away, that is based on the content of your character.
 
Dominic Rooney said:
This is a lame idea to the extreme. Imagine if there were Christian symbols saying "God is our Saviour" on the buses...I can just imagine the outrage by atheists. But now because atheism is the 'new black', it seems fashionable to continue this through hypocrisy (as Gary pointed out). You can't say Christians should stop preaching and then preach atheism.
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You've never seen billboards for churches where its like "The end is nigh.. What will happen to YOU?"

If one side can do it, so should the other, but really... Neither should.
 
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Morgoth said:
central tenet they don't always practice, don't be fooled by statistics though they are the biggest lies ever If I don't recall wrong Warren buffet gave away most of his money to charity?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/26/business/26buffett.html?_r=1&oref=slogin about 80% of this money to the foundation Bill Gates made, gates being a atheist and buffet some sort of agnostic, honestly religion has nothing to do with how much you give away, that is based on the content of your character.
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Your character is based on what your parents taught you and what the prevalent trends in your society are. Christian morals have become deeply ingrained in modern Western life, so they are no ubiquitous and taken for granted. We don't have gladiatoral entertainment and slavery for instance anymore. Buffet's father is a presbytarian Christian and Buffet has said he
has deep respect for him. If anything be said Buffet's donations come
from the spirit of charity which was bred into him from his early years.

If you don't like studies I'll give you some anecdotal evidence, everyone
I know who is religious (or spiritual) gives more than full atheists. :)

Don't forget also that Christians fund their churches which do missionary work, run hospitals, schools, universities and care for the old, poor and sick.
There are 1000s of these institutions out there.
 
HumanoidTyphoon said:
You've never seen billboards for churches where its like "The end is nigh.. What will happen to YOU?"

If one side can do it, so should the other, but really... Neither should.
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What do you mean "Neither should"?
We have freedom of speech don't we?

However unlike evangelical Christians, atheists are not evengalical, traditionally. There is nothing to evangelise. Except now we have this new crop of hypocrites who are evangelising absence of God. Seems illogical to me but legal and they have every right to say whatever they want to say :).
 
PeterCH, I sense a lot of hate in you. Reminds me of someone I knew.
 
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HumanoidTyphoon said:
You've never seen billboards for churches where its like "The end is nigh.. What will happen to YOU?"

If one side can do it, so should the other, but really... Neither should.
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Ja, occasionally, but usually in Church property. Or rented on the side of a Highway. They are becoming more common... esp. in the USA. I've never seen one on a bus though. And never in London... and none in relation to THIS article.

I do find it kinda tacky though when they do it from the Christian side. Esp. those ones that presume to speak on God's behalf. That is almost blasphemous. As if God needs to advertise. Nature is His best advertisement ;)

http://images.google.co.za/images?hl=en&q=religious+billboard&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
 
PeterCH said:
Your character is based on what your parents taught you and what the prevalent trends in your society are. Christian morals have become deeply ingrained in modern Western life, so they are no ubiquitous and taken for granted. We don't have gladiatoral entertainment and slavery for instance anymore. Buffet's father is a presbytarian Christian and Buffet has said he
has deep respect for him. If anything be said Buffet's donations come
from the spirit of charity which was bred into him from his early years.

If you don't like studies I'll give you some anecdotal evidence, everyone
I know who is religious (or spiritual) gives more than full atheists. :)

Don't forget also that Christians fund their churches which do missionary work, run hospitals, schools, universities and care for the old, poor and sick.
There are 1000s of these institutions out there.
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this might be true but also keep in mind the church is a running organization yet it helps charity do good things and all you mention above, but the way it is being funded is a bit in contras, the 2 ways of convincing people would be utter fear, make him as scared as possible, eg. the believe in sin , hell , Satan and all the rubbish they try and reach us, the other way is utter pleasure, heaven, divine love, forgiveness, the church in my opinion plays more on peoples emotion then the way they represent themselves.
 
He doesn't seem to like it when others evangelise, so yeah I can see how that makes atheists the hypocrites. LOL :D
 
Devill said:
Look we have been over this :) Science also "knew" a lot of things in the past. ;)

God will not be proven by science, EVER.

That would make the proven(by science) god not = God.

Anyway I agree its silly but it is their right to do as they wish.

Atheists have lately become just as bad as the religious people in trying to convert people... Let the people believe what they want and make up their own mind.

And before someone says: "Yeah but the church is fibbing and the atheists have science" sod off, I also "believe" in science/know more about science than the average person, but I am still religious.
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Quite frankly religious people do not erk me too much. I can coexist with them quite happily. :D It is young earth creationists spreading their agenda who erk me. These are the people who go completely against what science knows. These are the liars.

Fight fire with fire. ;)
 
Haha, I love this campaign. Also, I love how atheists came together and blew the socks off their target. Hopefully this goes worldwide and people actually start thinking for themselves.
 
I think the Sky Fairy has all the money it doesn't/shouldn't want...

Donating to the atheist bus, on the other hand, can be a good intervention for those who've been programmed like animals, since childhood, into always thinking there's a big fat Sky Fairy watching them...

Not conducive towards good mental health.

But that's what the Sky Fairy and its fans bank on, literally.
 
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