All things Shelly

SukkaFoo said:
Ugh, so I learned a few hard lessons... use a fscking multimeter to check which is the switch wire and which is the hot wire. In my photo above what's not immediately clear is that there were 3 live wires connected in a chocolate block, and then separately one wire on its own, connected either side of the old switch. There are 6 downlighters connected to this switch. My assumption was that the 3 lives were separate lines going to the lights, i.e. 3 lives, each split into 2 lights, so essentially the switched circuit. Turns out, they were hot wires piggy backing some other lights, and what I thought was the live was in fact the switched line to the lights.

Anyway, somehow through all of this I broke a shelly dimmer, so that's R400 down the drain. And then I couldn't solve it last night and ended up having to get a sparky (thankfully family) to come check it out for me this me, so no lights on that side of the house last night...
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Ouch!

Somehow I figured out without using a multimeter what you only figured out now. I haven't lost a single shelly yet.

I realized, the new way our houses are wired, I have 2 sets of lights daisy chained from the DB board.

So from the DB board, a single set is on 1 switch. That has a cable that goes to the 1st light switch. From that light switch, I then have 2 cables outgoing to other light switches, and a single wire going to my 8 down-lights, in the case of the lounge. Kitchen I have 6 down-lights but again they use a single cable at the switch.

Be glad your house is wired like this, it means you have a neural at the light switches. Your photo's wiring looked exactly like my house's wiring.

This daisy chaining is the reason there so many cables at the light switch, and I bet @Steamy Tom is just not used to it.
 
Tinuva said:
Ouch!

Somehow I figured out without using a multimeter what you only figured out now. I haven't lost a single shelly yet.

I realized, the new way our houses are wired, I have 2 sets of lights daisy chained from the DB board.

So from the DB board, a single set is on 1 switch. That has a cable that goes to the 1st light switch. From that light switch, I then have 2 cables outgoing to other light switches, and a single wire going to my 8 down-lights, in the case of the lounge. Kitchen I have 6 down-lights but again they use a single cable at the switch.

Be glad your house is wired like this, it means you have a neural at the light switches. Your photo's wiring looked exactly like my house's wiring.

This daisy chaining is the reason there so many cables at the light switch, and I bet @Steamy Tom is just not used to it.
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Yup. That's my exact setup. At least now I know I guess but I'm grumpy about the dimmer I lost. Less about the cost which isnt great but the las of ordering another and paying for delivery to PE.
 
Installed my 2nd dimmer just now.

Something I really like, is when you turn the lights on and off, it fades on and off. Kinda what my german car is doing too on the interior lights.
 
Greglsh said:
@SukkaFoo @Tinuva

When using the Shelly dimmers have you guys got dimmable LED GU10 bulbs, if so what is the best place to get and price per bulb?
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Yes I have dimmable gu10 leds. No idea what is best, these were here when I moved in, in March 2020.

I saw some expensive dimmable gu10 Philips bulbs advertised on the Makro website. Was considering those in the event my bulbs were not dimmable.
 
Tinuva said:
Yes I have dimmable gu10 leds. No idea what is best, these were here when I moved in, in March 2020.

I saw some expensive dimmable gu10 Philips bulbs advertised on the Makro website. Was considering those in the event my bulbs were not dimmable.
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I'm just using Ellies ones and they are dimming fine R220 for a ten pack from builders
 
SukkaFoo so these are not specifically dimmable led globes. The dimmable ones are expensive and if you need 4 to 6 per room gets expensive very quickly.
 
SukkaFoo said:
God I'm an ignorant fool but why does it matter?
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If they working and not flickering and don't make a buzzing sound. then maybe they okay. Some people have said that after a while the globes might pack up.
 
Greglsh said:
If they working and not flickering and don't make a buzzing sound. then maybe they okay. Some people have said that after a while the globes might pack up.
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They seem ok. I’ll see how it goes for the next while and report back I guess.
 
Tinuva said:
Just btw, the shelly dimmer is awesome
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Very yes. I have three downstairs now, for 3, 6 and 6 GU10 fixtures. I have one dimmer left that I want to put in my bedroom, but the fixture is normal E27 and finding dimmable 2700K LED globes was tricky even before lockdown. I'm trying to get some of these: Osram LED Performance Filament Bulb E27 7.5W 806lm Warm White

The GU10 ones were just as tricky to get "just right" (on old dimmers years ago). When I find one that is proper warm white (2700K and not 3000K) and at least 5W, it's got a terrible beam angle. The guy from www.lightbulbmoment.co.za was nice enough to get me 20 custom ones which I really love. They have a diffuser and wide beam angle. I'm just worried when they eventually fail that I won't find one without having to buy-and-try a bunch of different ones.
 
Hang on, look at this wonderful thing: https://shop.shelly.cloud/shelly-duo-gu10-wifi-smart-home-automation#361
Not sure if I would want to put 20 of these on my WiFi though, but the look and colour seems perfect for if I ever need to get new GU10s.

How many 2.4GHz IoT devices do people typically have? I now have about 15 things on 2.4GHz and while I know this is all low power and not an issue, I can't help but think that adding so many devices would make Bluetooth headphones struggle.
 
FHTheron said:
Hang on, look at this wonderful thing: https://shop.shelly.cloud/shelly-duo-gu10-wifi-smart-home-automation#361
Not sure if I would want to put 20 of these on my WiFi though, but the look and colour seems perfect for if I ever need to get new GU10s.

How many 2.4GHz IoT devices do people typically have? I now have about 15 things on 2.4GHz and while I know this is all low power and not an issue, I can't help but think that adding so many devices would make Bluetooth headphones struggle.
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Lol,

Would be quite a bit of frequency about your home @FHTheron

The Shelly Gu10 Duos support grouping bulb function, so a single set of commands for each room, in other words
 
ShellySA said:
Lol,

Would be quite a bit of frequency about your home @FHTheron

The Shelly Gu10 Duos support grouping bulb function, so a single set of commands for each room, in other words
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FHTheron said:
Hang on, look at this wonderful thing: https://shop.shelly.cloud/shelly-duo-gu10-wifi-smart-home-automation#361
Not sure if I would want to put 20 of these on my WiFi though, but the look and colour seems perfect for if I ever need to get new GU10s.

How many 2.4GHz IoT devices do people typically have? I now have about 15 things on 2.4GHz and while I know this is all low power and not an issue, I can't help but think that adding so many devices would make Bluetooth headphones struggle.
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I have 150 Gu 10 bulbs at home.

But I could selectively use these in some rooms/ passages where there are few fittings
 
FHTheron said:
Hang on, look at this wonderful thing: https://shop.shelly.cloud/shelly-duo-gu10-wifi-smart-home-automation#361
Not sure if I would want to put 20 of these on my WiFi though, but the look and colour seems perfect for if I ever need to get new GU10s.

How many 2.4GHz IoT devices do people typically have? I now have about 15 things on 2.4GHz and while I know this is all low power and not an issue, I can't help but think that adding so many devices would make Bluetooth headphones struggle.
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They do look wonderful, but...

Too much management for my taste. These Shelly dimmers won me over. 0
 
FHTheron said:
Hang on, look at this wonderful thing: https://shop.shelly.cloud/shelly-duo-gu10-wifi-smart-home-automation#361
Not sure if I would want to put 20 of these on my WiFi though, but the look and colour seems perfect for if I ever need to get new GU10s.

How many 2.4GHz IoT devices do people typically have? I now have about 15 things on 2.4GHz and while I know this is all low power and not an issue, I can't help but think that adding so many devices would make Bluetooth headphones struggle.
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This is one of the reasons I got Unifi:

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(IPs and Wifi SSID whited out above, sorted from lowest signal strength in this case)
 
For what it’s worth, I got two Duos recently. They’re pretty good. Brightness is good and the warm end of the colour is properly warm. I put them in a ceiling fitting for now, which means the wall switch becomes a do-not-touch which sucks.
 
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