People forget that the apartheid government was actually bankrupt in 80's and the ANC inherited a bankrupt government.
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People forget that the apartheid government was actually bankrupt in 80's and the ANC inherited a bankrupt government.
cr@zydude
Honorary Master
All people can go wherever they want without permission from the authorities. (other than people in jail of course) - try go to Nkandla. Public places, most people didn't have freedom of movement
People are allowed to gather in groups. - not without permission Don't confuse groups with protests. Do you really not see how it is different today?
The media is unrestricted. - info bill ? A proposal, and look at the amount of open criticism it receives
No more ridiculous censorship on books, music or films - not so. We still have the FPB. Yes, but look at what you have access to today. Do you think that Game of Thrones would have been on TV under NP rule?
Homosexuality is legal. - was it illegal? Yes, and they even made the 3 men at a party law to deal with it.
Education is open to all. - always was No it wasn't. Some universities accepted non-white students, but they were often treated as second class students.
Health services provided for all. - always was The level provided to non-whites was much lower.
Salaries have increased and employment is open to all. - to all non-whites White people's salaries are going up as well.
ftfy
They have done many things well. They have done even more things badly.
But getting people on MyBB/News24/IOL to list the former is...unlikely
marine1
Honorary Master
Well then tell us their good story then please.......
They did not write and they try to undermine it at every opportunity they get. They don't give fsck about the constitution, it's an obstacle to them.
marine1
Honorary Master
We have the best constitution in the world?? Wow what an achievement. 
Mike Hoxbig
Honorary Master
We made it to page 2, I guess this means that this thread has served its purpose...
cr@zydude
Honorary Master
They didn't write it on their own, but they did have to vote to introduce it. Also, they fact that they haven't made wholesale changes, even when they had that power, should show you something.
marine1
Honorary Master
When did they have wholesale power?
http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/on-changing-the-constitution/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_South_Africa#Amendments
It's not the amount of votes a party gets but the amount of votes from the national assembly required. 2004-2009 they would have had enough seats but that also means every single anc vote would have had to be in favour with only 2 nays or no votes.
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That explains all the walls and electric fences going up....
cr@zydude
Honorary Master
Working under the assumption that all ANC MPs would vote the party line, the ANC had over 267 seats from 2003 to 2009.
An average gross domestic product (GDP) growth rate of 3.6% between 1994 and 2007, and inflation reduced to 6.3% over the same period. In a historical context, this compares to apartheid South Africa’s disastrous decline in economic growth to an average of 1.4%, and inflation escalating to an average 14.2 % between 1980 and 1994. The net effect transformed South Africa from an US$80 billion to US$400 billion economy.
Monthly social welfare grants now benefit over 16 million people in need.
Between 2001 and 2010, lower-income earners decreased significantly from 52% to 31%, calculated in terms of the Living Standard Measure (LSM). This translates into 4.6 million people lifted out of the lower-income level. Equally significant, close to 10 million people have migrated from the lower- to the middle- and upper-income groups – an upward income shift of an average of 1 million people per year over 10 years.
The largest grouping of South Africans is now in the LSM middle-income bracket at 12.3 million, from 7 million of the population a decade earlier. Africans dominate the middle-class consumer segment, while whites on average have become wealthier.
http://www.wbsjournal.co.za/article...freedom-achievements-and-challenges-1466.html
Monthly social welfare grants now benefit over 16 million people in need.
Between 2001 and 2010, lower-income earners decreased significantly from 52% to 31%, calculated in terms of the Living Standard Measure (LSM). This translates into 4.6 million people lifted out of the lower-income level. Equally significant, close to 10 million people have migrated from the lower- to the middle- and upper-income groups – an upward income shift of an average of 1 million people per year over 10 years.
The largest grouping of South Africans is now in the LSM middle-income bracket at 12.3 million, from 7 million of the population a decade earlier. Africans dominate the middle-class consumer segment, while whites on average have become wealthier.
http://www.wbsjournal.co.za/article...freedom-achievements-and-challenges-1466.html
I did on the previous page.
In my book, their biggest achievements are :
Averting the debt default we were close to, and then reducing the crippling debt we were in.
Dramatic increases in GDP (PPP) and GDP per Capita (PPP)
Dramatic reduction in poverty
Add in a big increase in our healthcare which was dismal prior to '94 (Remember effective healthcare is a combination of reach and quality. The increase in reach is dramatic, but quality has gone down a bit in places).
The automotive industry has also been a very successful addition to our economy
This. This is by far and away their crowning glory
In what world?? Walls are coming down all around.
Hell, I just recently had our wall lowered.
Mike Hoxbig
Honorary Master
Cape Town isn't currently under ANC rule, and hasn't been for a while...
No, but it has been. And during their reign, the city still became better than it was. And remember the concept of the Metro, and the powers that brings, was brought in by the ANC.
That is the frustrating thing about the DA. The was they talk about the ANC, you would think the ANC is useless. But then annoyingly, Gauteng keeps doing fairly impressive things (Bad things as well, but lets not focus on that). Our GDP is not growing that much faster than Gauteng
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marine1
Honorary Master
I don't think that's correct
There was massive tender fraud and numerous contracts were cancelled iirc
But let's say you are right. That's 1 out of 9