Apple has lost it's innovation

It not *light years* ahead of the current tablets - and I do like the resolution of iPad 3.

iPad 2 was actually on par or - depending on what you want to do with it - inferior to some tablets out. However most of you quote sales figures when I bring that up, so no point in really arguing

Edit : looking at http://deviceguru.com/galaxy-tab-10-1-vs-ipad2-smackdown/ I don't see light years. In fact I see very, very similar
 
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bwana said:
After all it still going to have all the same "failings" you condem the ipad2 for having.
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Out of interest, why do you put it in commas?

In the few months I've been here, everything I've listed from 3G limit, zero hotspot or the latest method of attaching mails is true. Whether you have encountered them, or you have used work arounds or even hacked the device to get around them I don't know ... It they exist
 
What more do I want...? Well a USB port would be nice :) take that over a prettier screen and faster processor any day!
 
I think we're going in the same circle .... ?

I say 'it's good , decent, sufficient ... ' and *you all think it's a gift from above? An untouchable device that almost cures cancer, with an app.

I then quote why it's only good and not a gift - and *you quote sales figures to prove how fantastic it is?

What's the point of going much further?

* you being iFolk
 
It's not defeat :/

I have my (realistic) view and you have your (Disney) view of consumer electronics and tablets. We just need to agree to disagree :)
 
Dolby said:
har har ... funny iSheep :)
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You do realise that you have become what you seem to distain the most, right? On one hand you bleat (sheep reference) about the failings of the iPad yet on the other hand you have expressed an [irrational] desire to own the latest model even though you know that those failings are still going to be there.

Wear the badge with pride. ;)
 
Just get the galaxy tab if he iPad is not good enough... we are content with the iPad as a device, it's not meant to be a full fledged PC yet.
 
bwana said:
Wear the badge with pride. ;)
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pffffft ;)

I've done what the majority have you guys have done - fit within what the iPad can actually do.

In other words, I browse the internet.
 
Dolby said:
I think we're going in the same circle .... ?

I say 'it's good , decent, sufficient ... ' and *you all think it's a gift from above? An untouchable device that almost cures cancer, with an app.

I then quote why it's only good and not a gift - and *you quote sales figures to prove how fantastic it is?

What's the point of going much further?

* you being iFolk
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iFolk pleugh... get a life.

You know why it's relevant to point to sales numbers as an indication of competition? Because that's how Samsung, Motorola and Apple measure competition. This isn't the music industry where an innovative upstart can create an alternative funding source to make a living out of their craft, while the mainstream wallows in mediocrity and megacorporates. EVERY one of these companies is a global tech conglomerate spending hundreds of millions of R&D dollars to get a slice of the tablet pie, and they simply cannot keep up with Apple's supply chain strength. Apple came out of the gate with years of R&D already completed, defined a hitherto untapped market segment, with a thriving app store that they were able to leverage in a very elegant way - and from day one people like you have been moaning about this or that missing feature; completely missing the point.

2 years since the first iPad was released they've managed 2 consecutive drastic updates:
from 1 core to 4
6x graphics increase
from no camera to 5mp iPhone4 camera
1024x800 to 2048x1536 screen improvement
From 3g to multi-band LTE
from 256mb to 1gb
from 13mm depth to 9.4mm

Meanwhile Samsung is still piddling around with dual core processors and unchanged screen resolutions, and still (in the US) sticks a 2 year data contract term onto their devices plus the already $500 price tag. They've admitted that they are failing in the market, and they still haven't demonstrated a clear way to get out. Personally I suspect that they're all quietly hoping that this whole tablet thing passes away like any other fad, but I really doubt that will be the case.
 
You really don't understand consumer electronics, do you?
 
On a serious note, why isn't Google pushing Android hard into the tablet space?

Apple’s New iPad Should Be Google’s Wake-Up Call

In fairness, Google can only do so much. Like the iOS App Store, Google’s Android Market — er, Google Play — relies on third-party developers to thrive. Those developers decide whether to optimize apps for tablet-size displays. Still, there are signs that Google isn’t doing everything in its power to rally third-party developers.

Part of the problem is attitude. In a recent interview with the Verge, Google Android boss Andy Rubin said the biggest problem for Android tablets is “there’s no organized way for consumers to recognize it as a viable platform.”

Sorry, wrong. The much bigger problem is that Android isn’t a viable tablet platform — not while the apps that people rely on look silly on a bigger screen, and while Apple continues to get new tablet apps that Android doesn’t have. When the Verge questioned Rubin on the subject of apps, he was dismissive. Though he admitted that it was Google’s responsibility to evangelize the platform to developers, he didn’t offer a plan for how Google would do a better job of it.

One way would be to promote the tablet apps that do exist. One year after the first 10-in. Android tablets hit the market, Google’s app store still doesn’t have a way to find tablet apps. The front page has a Staff Picks for Tablet section, but that’s it. If you’re just browsing the catalog, there’s no way to tell whether an app will look good on a big screen.

In the iOS App Store, iPad users only see tablet apps in the top charts and categories; iPad apps are listed separately from iPhone apps in searches. It’s easy to see why developers are flocking to Apple: the App Store makes their tablet software so much easier to find.

Google could also take a page from Apple and lead by example. Look at the homemade apps that Apple has created. iMovie, GarageBand and the new iPhoto aren’t just a direct source of revenue for Apple. They’re hardware sellers — the kinds of mass-appeal software products people envision themselves using — and they’re inspiration for third-party developers.

Google offers nothing similar, other than table-stakes apps like Gmail and Calendar. If Google isn’t getting any showstopping tablet apps for Android, the company should create some of its own.
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http://techland.time.com/2012/03/09/apples-new-ipad-should-be-googles-wake-up-call/?iid=tl-main-lede

Is the bolded part true? :confused: Android tablet competition is never going to amount to much if they don't have 100% Google/Android support.

I completely agree with Cerebus, the iPad needs competition - it's in our best interest as consumers. Competition of course being another successful tablet seller, not a spec sheet comparison. Hopefully Windows 8 creates the necessary impetus - by itself or to kick Android into a higher gear.
 
SiriS said:
Is the bolded part true? :confused: Android tablet competition is never going to amount to much if they don't have 100% Google/Android support.
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In a way yes, Android market shows if applications can work in a sub menu as seen bellow

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There is no way to search for a Tablet only application inside Google Market but this has been overcome by a third party http://www.tablified.com/. Not the best solution but there is one at least.
 
Elimentals said:
In a way yes, Android market shows if applications can work in a sub menu as seen bellow

There is no way to search for a Tablet only application inside Google Market but this has been overcome by a third party http://www.tablified.com/. Not the best solution but there is one at least.
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Elimentals, as a power user of Android, do you think Google is doing enough with Android to assist tablet manufacturers in taking on Apple?

Or is this intrinsically an issue with the "open system" approach? Strategies, incentives, market driving forces are misaligned between the different players. Tablets are very much about user experience, the complete package, and in Android's case there may be too many cooks spoiling the broth?

I have little experience with Android on tablets, but given the great strides made in the smartphone market it still baffles me that they offer so little resistance in the tablet space. Has Google dropped the ball on this one?
 
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