cerebus
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Mm that xenon flash makes quite a difference.
Engadget shows 4S ahead.
n8 ahead of 4s.
So..yeah... mixed reviews and not a clear winner in the bunch.
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Mm that xenon flash makes quite a difference.
Engadget shows 4S ahead.
n8 ahead of 4s.
So..yeah... mixed reviews and not a clear winner in the bunch.
Jola
Honorary Master
Nope, the Sony Xperia Arc had the same camera as the 4s, but is much older than the 4s.
The current Sony Xperia S has a 12mp camera, way better than the 4s. Possibly the 5 will have this camera.
So, some Android phones were, and still are way ahead of the iPhone.
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More MP on such a miniscule sensor is not necessarily a good thing.
Jola
Honorary Master
My specuation is that this same 12mp camera will be in the iPhone 5.
It doesn't matter what phone it's in, even an iPhone.
Jola
Honorary Master
Anyway, my Xperia S takes really good pictures, on a recent trip some were better than the photos from the D7000 that I use for light travel.
Not good in poor light, though.
Maverick Jester
The Special One
So... the only actual advantage that your iPhone has is that it was the same price as competing Androids on your contract? I don't see how that is an advantage...
cerebus
Honorary Master
I think that's rather an oversimplification. One simple reason he gave was the feel of it vs the feel of Android - particularly Android 2 years ago (when 2.3 ruled, and continues to rule). Today, if they released something that looked like the leaks and mockups are shaping up fairly solidly to be, I'd still find it a very compelling device from the appearance of it - vs the blighted anti-design of the SGS3. OneX is beautiful though.
Maverick Jester
The Special One
Android 4.0 has made an impressive leap forward, and I have compared it to iOS and find it more accessible, but I agree on Android 2.3. In comparision to Apple, getting the latest version of the OS can be slightly more tiresome with the whole multiple vendor situation. But in comparision to Apple- I am not reliant on carriers / vendors / anyone to push the updates for me. Right now, I am happily running Jelly Bean, and I have functionality that I cannot hope to have with iPhone.
I also hated the S3 design when I first saw it- but after using it, I was impressed (not thouroughly though, TouchWiz is a steaming pile of **** no matter how they have "updated" it).
This has gotten way off topic. However, more megapixels does not make a better camera, especially with such a small sensor. The lens quality plays a much bigger role, and recently the software also makes a big difference.
Anyway, did you go out and buy the Xperia S? If not, then why not?
What makes a phone great is a combination of the features. The camera, phone reception, data speeds, user interface, access to useful apps, display clarity, battery life, ecosystem, all add up to make a great phone. Not specs. An 8MP camera is not better than a 5 MP camera if the low light performace is inferior. A 3000mAh battery is not better than a 2100 mAh battery if the phone drains it in 8 hours. A quad core processor isn't better than a dual core if the interface is jerky and unresponsive. OTA updates are useless if your phone isn't selected for upgrade.
The iPhone has the best combination of these features that suit my requirements. Others may prefer a phone that allows them to change the look and feel, or whatever, and that's fine. For me I like the ecosystem Apple have built. I have an iPad and an Apple TV, and together they combine to give a great overall experience.
No, if you took the trouble to read the whole thread you'd see that I am saying that I don't believe that Apple is ripping me off personally because their profit margins are higher than Samsung's.
cerebus
Honorary Master
Android definitely has come on. Jelly Bean is a smoother experience. I still find it difficult to find the same quality of apps - apart from the native Gapps package which is generally nicer for me than the iOS equivalent.
S3 is definitely nicer to use than to look at. Dat screen
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Maverick Jester
The Special One
That's fine, but it still doesn't answer my question, which cerebus did answer.
FWIW- You may not feel that Apple are ripping you off, but you aren't buying directly from Apple. Kind of a moot point.
Jola
Honorary Master
When buying the phones cash (which I typically do, I'm not into contracts), the Android phones are typically much cheaper than iPhones. For example, I think that you can get SG3's for somewhat less than a 4s.
That seems to indicate to me that the networks are ripping the ring out of it with respect to the Android phones, those contracts should be cheaper than the iPhone contracts.
That seems to indicate to me that the networks are ripping the ring out of it with respect to the Android phones, those contracts should be cheaper than the iPhone contracts.
That was exactly my point. The carriers (Vodacom, MTN, Cell C) may make less profit on their contract deals with the iPhone, but as a costomer I am not disadvantaged, or "ripped off".
Maverick Jester
The Special One
Android definitely has come on. Jelly Bean is a smoother experience. I still find it difficult to find the same quality of apps - apart from the native Gapps package which is generally nicer for me than the iOS equivalent.
S3 is definitely nicer to use than to look at. Dat screen
True, the specific apps do make a difference. Personally, I have never struggled to find a quality Android app that I needed for a specific function.
But yes, that screen
Maverick Jester
The Special One
Ripped off in comparision to other contracts does not mean that you are not being ripped off though...
Toxin
Expert Member
This whole patent wars thing is stupid. This is why we just can't all get along or have nice things. And ultimately it won't get anyone anywhere. Apple/Samsung/Google/whoever sues.... wins. Other party appeals. Years later nothing comes of it or it has dragged on so long that it doesn't matter anymore.
You guys are all trying to defend your purchases by joining this massive bandwagon that won't mean anything in the long run.
I have an S2. First smartphone I've ever had and I have enjoyed having it immensely. I'm only upgrading the end of next year, a good thing since I am not a fan of the S3¹. But next year there'll be an S4² or maybe an iPhone5s or maybe even a proper Win8 Nokia phone. I'll get what I want.... at that time.
However, if I'm completely honest and after seeing the difference, if I get an iPhone next year I will jailbreak it before I've even loaded on any contacts. Sorry Apple, if I've bought it I want to customize it the way I want it..... not the way you want me to.
¹ Too big! :wtf:
² Please Samsung!! Make it the same size as the S2. You already have a tablet/phone..... it's called the Galaxy Note.
You guys are all trying to defend your purchases by joining this massive bandwagon that won't mean anything in the long run.
I have an S2. First smartphone I've ever had and I have enjoyed having it immensely. I'm only upgrading the end of next year, a good thing since I am not a fan of the S3¹. But next year there'll be an S4² or maybe an iPhone5s or maybe even a proper Win8 Nokia phone. I'll get what I want.... at that time.
However, if I'm completely honest and after seeing the difference, if I get an iPhone next year I will jailbreak it before I've even loaded on any contacts. Sorry Apple, if I've bought it I want to customize it the way I want it..... not the way you want me to.
¹ Too big! :wtf:
² Please Samsung!! Make it the same size as the S2. You already have a tablet/phone..... it's called the Galaxy Note.
cerebus
Honorary Master
You know, it's more about the non-specific functions for me. Stuff that I want to discover, like games or children's learning apps. They have all the 'tick a box' apps for sure.
Ah now, but the OneX's screen <3But yes, that screen
Getting back to the original thread regarding the ongoing patent wars, all the manufacturers are involved. This is not just about Apple vs Samsung; they're all sueing each other.
Do you think they should be able to patent software and/or hardware? Where do you draw the line?
Do you think they should be able to patent software and/or hardware? Where do you draw the line?