Article: Black bride brochure racism row

Where did they say this?

Here:

Vote ANC or "oppressors" will rule: Gigaba
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/575645-Vote-ANC-or-quot-oppressors-quot-will-rule-Gigaba

Cyril Ramaphosa using the race card: DA
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...aphosa-using-the-race-card-DA?highlight=cyril

Unless the Indians or Coloreds are known as Boers or they ran the old apartheids government without me knowing so, I think we pretty much know who they are referring to.

However, back to the topic, that is fine and everyone would conveniently just look past it.... asking where this has happened I suppose...
 
Here:

Vote ANC or "oppressors" will rule: Gigaba
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/575645-Vote-ANC-or-quot-oppressors-quot-will-rule-Gigaba

Cyril Ramaphosa using the race card: DA
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...aphosa-using-the-race-card-DA?highlight=cyril

Unless the Indians or Coloreds are known as Boers or they ran the old apartheids government without me knowing so, I think we pretty much know who they are referring to.

However, back to the topic, that is fine and everyone would conveniently just look past it.... asking where this has happened I suppose...

So, according to you all white people are oppressors and boers?

In the first post Minister Malusi Gigaba has warned people to vote next year to prevent "oppressors" from gaining control of the government, and in the second post Cyril Ramaphosa spoke about not returning "boers" to power. Neither said all white people are oppressors or boers.
You were the one who interpreted it that way when you said "When the ANC generalizes and call all white people oppressors wanting to send the country back to apartheid times."

They said no such thing
 
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So, according to you all white people are oppressors and boers?

In the first post Minister Malusi Gigaba has warned people to vote next year to prevent "oppressors" from gaining control of the government, and in the second post Cyril Ramaphosa spoke about not returning "boers" to power. Neither said all white people are oppressors or boers.
You were the one who interpreted it that way when you said "When the ANC generalizes and call all white people oppressors wanting to send the country back to apartheid times."

They said no such thing

Who do you think they are referring to? Indians, Coloureds, Pakistanis, Mayans? Don't be naive! Not all people in SA are really that stupid!
 
Who do you think they are referring to? Indians, Coloureds, Pakistanis, Mayans? Don't be naive! Not all people in SA are really that stupid!

I'm white and I'm not an oppressor or a boer so clearly they are not referring to all white people.
 
What is relevance of your post exactly?

I didn't say whether it was white or black people who slaughtered the animals on the beach. Which one did you think it was? Race stereotypes exist, deal with it.
 
I didn't say whether it was white or black people who slaughtered the animals on the beach. Which one did you think it was? Race stereotypes exist, deal with it.
You don't think it's important for people to consciously transcend racial stereotypes, knowing that they are irrelevant, counter productive and just plain wrong? You don't think it's important to oppose stereotypes when you encounter them? By "deal with it" what do you mean exactly? Is not confronting and opposing stereotypes a way of dealing with it? Or would you prefer something more concrete like jail time for blatant racism? Or by deal with it do you mean accept it and ignore it? How is that 'dealing' with it?
 
You might put your blinkers on and stick your head in the sand but that doesn't mean stereotyping will stop existing.

So tell us, when you read the article did you think it was whites or blacks that slaughtered animals on the beach?
 
You might put your blinkers on and stick your head in the sand but that doesn't mean stereotyping will stop existing.

So tell us, when you read the article did you think it was whites or blacks that slaughtered animals on the beach?

I read the article, made note that race wasn't mentioned, thought about pointing this out to you, didn't bother and filed it as irrelevant and moved on. I didn't think about it in racial terms at all.

I know that racism and racial stereotyping exists but opposing it is not 'putting your head in the sand' - it's confronting it. Accepting it as inevitable, as you do, is putting your head in the sand. Ignore it and pretend it's just the way it is...
 
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I read the article, made note that race wasn't mentioned, thought about pointing this out to you, didn't bother and filed it as irrelevant and moved on. I didn't think about it in racial terms at all.

Were you born from immaculate conception and do you have nail holes in the palms of your hands?


Didn't think so.
 
Were you born from immaculate conception and do you have nail holes in the palms of your hands?


Didn't think so.
What is the relevance of this post? Whatever you think, not everybody thinks in terms of racial stereotypes all the time. It's obviously a problem you have to deal with but don't make your problems mine. One doesn't have to be jesus to transcend racial stereotypes, you just need to become aware of it when it happens and reject it.
 
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Done.
 
Oh, I didn't know Muhammed was/is a racist.

Interesting.

Is it because he was hit on the head to many times?
 
Oh, I didn't know Muhammed was/is a racist.

Interesting.

Is it because he was hit on the head to many times?

It's the whole context issue again, Ali didn't hate anyone and was all for peace and love. read his quotes and see what kind of person he was

My enemy is the white people, not the Vietcong . . . . You're my opposer when I want freedom. You're my opposer when I want justice. You're my opposer when I want equality. You won't even stand up for me in America because of my religious beliefs, and you want me to go somewhere and fight, when you won't even stand up for my religious beliefs at home.

Over the years my religion has changed and my spirituality has evolved. Religion and spirituality are very different, but people often confuse the two. Some things cannot be taught, but they can be awakened in the heart. Spirituality is recognizing the divine light that is within us all. It doesn't belong to any particular religion; it belongs to everyone.

Under the influence of Elijah Mohammad — who preached that blacks should refuse to integrate with "white devils" — Ali made a point of dating only black women and lashed out at men and women who engaged in interracial sex. In an interview with Playboy, he declared: "A black man should be killed if he's messing with a white woman." When the interviewer asked about black women crossing the colour barrier, Ali responded: "Then she dies. Kill her, too."

It's unlikely that a white athlete who made such remarks would receive the praise that Michael Mann heaps on Ali. He says that the fighter "personified racial pride and self-knowledge". The Playboy journalist, who interviewed the boxer, was closer to the mark when he observed of his subject: "You're beginning to sound like a carbon copy of a white racist." ... The transformation of Ali from a great fighter to a celebrated man of conscience and social purpose has succeeded so well because the actual history of his career has been altered to reflect the kinder, gentler man of today. Unpleasant remarks or facts from the past have been swept away or excused. ... A more historically accurate appraisal of Ali would conclude that he was far from heroic outside the ring and was pitifully misused by his masters in the Nation of Islam. For his purposes, Elijah hijacked the impressionable young man's career and filled his head with racist nonsense.

By the time he finally broke free of the old Nation of Islam, in the 1970s, his career was in its last stages. He continued to fight long past his prime, in part to recover the money and time he had lost in his misadventures with the Black Muslims.
 
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