Article: Die Stem fight

me_savage said:
Nkosi does not mean God as you are led to believe. It means Ruler or King. They just said it means God to smooth it over with white afrikaners and make the new anthem acceptable to non-blacks.
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That, my compatriot, is a huge pile of horse manure...
 
It was written pre-apartheid...
and the part that was included refers to the gorgeous environment of South Africa.
 
I agree. Especially about the Afrikaans part. It is written by white people and thus should not be enforced upon black people to sing. We must transform the national anthem asap.
 
I agree. Especially about the Afrikaans part. It is written by white people and thus should not be enforced upon black people to sing. We must transform the national anthem asap.
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So whites musn't sing the bit written by black people.

:twisted:
 
daveza said:
So whites musn't sing the bit written by black people.

:twisted:
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Reported for racism!!!!

Also, I lolled at leftist hippies with the likes of Piet Croucamp at Beeld going rampant at the singing of Die Stem. That man is seriously mentally ill. Then I puked a little bit because that is a natural reaction when I see his face.
 
Schavuit said:
I agree. Especially about the Afrikaans part. It is written by white people and thus should not be enforced upon black people to sing. We must transform the national anthem asap.
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Lets turn the National anthem in a duet, Blacks sing their part then shut the hell up then whites sing their part and then shut the hell up. How would that appease the moaners?

Freaking idiots! Mandela's vision and legacy are truly dead!
 
I am not patriotic enough to really give a rat's ass about this outcome. Proudly South African though because it is the country that I call my home. People put too much thought into trying to keep things from their past and to me that is perhaps what gives them comfort because I will admit that it is sometimes very difficult to let go of things that has some sentimental value to me.

Afrikaans is something that is not tangible and nobody gets hurt when it gets blamed for being a reminder of SA in the grip of apartheid because it was a really popular language for white South Africans but now we need to acknowledge that proper communication in SA cannot be in Afrikaans anymore.
 
Seriously said:
Lets turn the National anthem in a duet, Blacks sing their part then shut the hell up then whites sing their part and then shut the hell up. How would that appease the moaners?

Freaking idiots! Mandela's vision and legacy are truly dead!
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But that would be apartheid. Separating blacks and white.
 
Ryansr said:
Afrikaans is something that is not tangible and nobody gets hurt when it gets blamed for being a reminder of SA in the grip of apartheid because it was a really popular language for white South Africans but now we need to acknowledge that proper communication in SA cannot be in Afrikaans anymore.
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Speak for yourself, ******.

Because Afrikaans is used by white people it cannot be used as a language anymore? Lets abolish English as well and all learn Swazi!

Or am I being trolled myself here
 
IMO, the Eff-Off-Eff managed to cause a stir by raising an issue about something of much less consequence than the far more pressing matters faced by our society. The masses of starving, illiterate, homeless, jobless, struggling people in this country have more serious concerns than the anthem. The worrying drop in investor confidence due to the poor levels of productivity, is much more serious than a few afrikaans lyrics! If JM and his cronies were seen to be doing something tangible to help this country, I might grow a smidge of respect for them.

Getting people in a huff about "Die Stem" is a pathetic attempt to gather public interest
 
flarkit said:
IMO, the Eff-Off-Eff managed to cause a stir by raising an issue about something of much less consequence than the far more pressing matters faced by our society. The masses of starving, illiterate, homeless, jobless, struggling people in this country have more serious concerns than the anthem. The worrying drop in investor confidence due to the poor levels of productivity, is much more serious than a few afrikaans lyrics! If JM and his cronies were seen to be doing something tangible to help this country, I might grow a smidge of respect for them.

Getting people in a huff about "Die Stem" is a pathetic attempt to gather public interest
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Sorry for the masses. Not.
 
Let's see JM and friends building schools and doing something about missing textbooks, before looking for trouble with the anthem
 
flarkit said:
IMO, the Eff-Off-Eff managed to cause a stir by raising an issue about something of much less consequence than the far more pressing matters faced by our society. The masses of starving, illiterate, homeless, jobless, struggling people in this country have more serious concerns than the anthem. The worrying drop in investor confidence due to the poor levels of productivity, is much more serious than a few afrikaans lyrics! If JM and his cronies were seen to be doing something tangible to help this country, I might grow a smidge of respect for them.

Getting people in a huff about "Die Stem" is a pathetic attempt to gather public interest
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Agreed.. this big woo haa about a song. Meantime people starve, economy down the tubes... but yes.. let's focus on a song. That will create jobs, build houses, feed people..
 
The current national anthem is fine, why mess with it? These EFF politicians don't seem to contribute much. LOL for their voters, deceived again.
 
Ryansr said:
Afrikaans is something that is not tangible and nobody gets hurt when it gets blamed for being a reminder of SA in the grip of apartheid because it was a really popular language for white South Africans but now we need to acknowledge that proper communication in SA cannot be in Afrikaans anymore.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaans

With about 7 million native speakers in South Africa, or 13.5% of the population, it is the third-most-spoken mother tongue in the country. It has the widest geographical and racial distribution of all the official languages of South Africa, and is widely spoken and understood as a second or third language. It is the majority language of the western half of South Africa — the provinces of the Northern Cape and Western Cape — and the first language of over 70% of Coloured South Africans (3.4 million people) and about 60% of White South Africans (2.7 million). About 600,000 black South Africans speak it as their first language.[6] Large numbers of Bantu-speaking and English-speaking South Africans also speak it as their second language.
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