Article: Matric pass rate improved in 2012

Well, I didn't really read this thread and I'm in no mood to type(Waiting for the matric results) here is the guidelines for maths link It basically outlines the syllabus for school maths.

EDIT: Check around page 17 for the sections covered and thereafter for the details on each section. Paper 3 is optional but will be (partially) integrated into the system and be compulsory in 2014 onwards.
 
Why do you list parents as being the most responsible for their kids education ?
Education, discipline and respect starts at home.
IMO.
I know teachers, if parents don't give a FSk kids tend to give a FSk.
 
Education, discipline and respect starts at home.

A pupil can have respect and discipline in chunks - it's not going to help if your teachers bugger off to Sadtu meetings, are just incompetent, if your schools have no facilities or proper equipment, etc etc etc.

If the teachers don't give a fsk, then neither will most students.
 
How much did the ' adjustment' of marks contribute to the few % increase in the pass rate ?

You would make better informed coments if you took time to read. You would've come across this...

"On 21 December 2012, Umalusi convened the standardisation meeting at which performance in each subject was analysed statistically and qualitatively to ensure current performance was in keeping with performance in previous years.

Umalusi was able to use raw scores for the majority of subjects.

Out of the 58 subjects that were standardised, raw scores of 41 were accepted. Of those that were adjusted, 12 were taken down, and only 5 were taken up."
 
A pupil can have respect and discipline in chunks - it's not going to help if your teachers bugger off to Sadtu meetings, are just incompetent, if your schools have no facilities or proper equipment, etc etc etc.

If the teachers don't give a fsk, then neither will most students.
true. Teachers should be teachers because they love to teach.
It should be equal responsibility.
 
Definitely parents are ultimately responsible, as they are responsible for the characters of their children and the value placed on education in the household and society. Yes teachers mess up but most give it their all.

Personal responsibility is generally the cause and solution to many social ills in my opinion
 
The problem is that once you're on maths lit, that is it for you. The government do not allow you to "upgrade" to the higher grade exam, regardless of how many extra lessons you attend, or your abilities. My youngest sister was subjected to this ridiculous rule which only exists to bolster their stats. She passed maths lit with 90% and mentioned that the questions pertained to identifying shapes correctly, calculating how many apples you would have if someone took some out of your basket, and what your interest payments on a simple loan would be.

That is a pathetic standard of education. These are skills that pre-teens possess, or at least should. I find the notion of maths literacy to be farcical at best. They simply re-frame existing skills that a kid already possesses into a subject of its own in order to address the poor mathematics results, and that is not how you solve a problem, so to speak. More maths literacy matriculants entering the "real world" will result in more of this kind of logic, and that is not a standard worth working towards.

This is one of these situations where a "back in my day" argument holds merit. I just about failed maths in Standard 9 and had a swift kick up my arse by my folks thereafter. I applied myself a little and eventually matriculated with a distinction in maths. I honestly believe that much of what is attributed to inability with these kids is simply them being lazy kids, and the parents not giving a schit. You cannot blame the teachers if the kids nor their parents have the inclination to learn, or the willingness to discipline or incentivise their kids to do so.

As long as parents hold the attitude that "well I hardly use any of the maths I learned at school therefore maths lit makes sense" this sort of problem will perpetuate. It's not simply about learning quadratic equations and applying them in your chosen field - it helps to frame your constructs of reasoning later in life as well. Personally, I'm able to calculate the volume of my pool thanks to school mathematics. I'm able to understand why an internal rate of return calculation is pivotal to my business(es) thanks to school maths. I'm able to accurately forecast my financial statements thanks to school maths (and accounting). More importantly I'm able to understand why these things are pertinent too.

Maths literacy assumes that the child taking it is a complete moron who will never contribute to society in any meaningful manner, apart from paying taxes, although they'll struggle to calculate these taxes in the first place, because questions in their school exams relating to percentages were static and isolated - there was no such thing as a scaled calculation.

Our education system should be empowering the kids with the ability to be whatever and whoever they want to be in their careers. It shouldn't make negative assumptions about them beforehand and limit them later on in life, particularly in their university choices. It shouldn't assume that 50% of the matriculants will be street sweepers, bag packers and ANC MECs. It also shouldn't assume that non-native-English speakers will struggle with concepts because of language barriers. If that were true we should all be fluent in Latin in order to pass maths and English.

The entire principle of the literacy grade and reducing standards of examinations is ludicrous. If you want to succeed at making the future of SA a prosperous one, you start at the ground-roots level, by increasing the standard of education supplied, not decreasing the benchmarks and examination levels. It really irks me that this sort of mentality is bandied about as something to be proud of, as that thoughtleader blog attempts to...
 
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The problem is that once you're on maths lit, that is it for you. The government do not allow you to "upgrade" to the higher grade exam, regardless of how many extra lessons you attend, or your abilities. My youngest sister was subjected to this ridiculous rule which only exists to bolster their stats. She passed maths lit with 90% and mentioned that the questions pertained to identifying shapes correctly, calculating how many apples you would have if someone took some out of your basket, and what your interest payments on a simple loan would be.

That is a pathetic standard of education. These are skills that pre-teens possess, or at least should. I find the notion of maths literacy to be farcical at best. They simply re-frame existing skills that a kid already possesses into a subject of its own in order to address the poor mathematics results, and that is not how you solve a problem, so to speak. More maths literacy matriculants entering the "real world" will result in more of this kind of logic, and that is not a standard worth working towards.

This is one of these situations where a "back in my day" argument holds merit. I just about failed maths in Standard 9 and had a swift kick up my arse by my folks thereafter. I applied myself a little and eventually matriculated with a distinction in maths. I honestly believe that much of what is attributed to inability with these kids is simply them being lazy kids, and the parents not giving a schit. You cannot blame the teachers if the kids nor their parents have the inclination to learn, or the willingness to discipline or incentivise their kids to do so.

As long as parents hold the attitude that "well I hardly use any of the maths I learned at school therefore maths lit makes sense" this sort of problem will perpetuate. It's not simply about learning quadratic equations and applying them in your chosen field - it helps to frame your constructs of reasoning later in life as well. Personally, I'm able to calculate the volume of my pool thanks to school mathematics. I'm able to understand why an internal rate of return calculation is pivotal to my business(es) thanks to school maths. I'm able to accurately forecast my financial statements thanks to school maths (and accounting). More importantly I'm able to understand why these things are pertinent too.

Maths literacy assumes that the child taking it is a complete moron who will never contribute to society in any meaningful manner, apart from paying taxes, although they'll struggle to calculate these taxes in the first place, because questions in their school exams relating to percentages were static and isolated - there was no such thing as a scaled calculation.

Our education system should be empowering the kids with the ability to be whatever and whoever they want to be in their careers. It shouldn't make negative assumptions about them beforehand and limit them later on in life, particularly in their university choices. It shouldn't assume that 50% of the matriculants will be street sweepers, bag packers and ANC MECs. It also shouldn't assume that non-native-English speakers will struggle with concepts because of language barriers. If that were true we should all be fluent in Latin in order to pass maths and English.

The entire principle of the literacy grade and reducing standards of examinations is ludicrous. If you want to succeed at making the future of SA a prosperous one, you start at the ground-roots level, by increasing the standard of education supplied, not decreasing the benchmarks and examination levels. It really irks me that this sort of mentality is bandied about as something to be proud of, as that thoughtleader blog attempts to...

I don't think people are listening. it's easier to dumb things down than to expect people to excel. A sad state of affairs indeed. Maths lit is something your parrot could do.
 
The current mathematics is math higher grade without geometry (which is an extra paper that you can write). There isn't much wrong with the curriculum, its the low pass rates that is an issue.

Mathematical literacy is basically bantu education mathematics, however you have to remember that in your days you could have chosen to not take maths at all.

No Geometry? Trig?
 
Dear lord... and they give you three hours for this?

I really get the idea behind maths lit, but I can't help cringing at this standard. I'm all for kids knowing how to interpret the questions posed in a paper like this... just one thought though; what have they been teaching them in the 6-odd years preceding this??? :confused:
 
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