Article: Numsa dumps ANC

The National Union of Metalworkers of SA will not support the ANC in next year's elections, general secretary Irvin Jim said on Friday.

The union would also stop paying contributions to the Congress of SA Trade Unions and SA Communist Party, he told delegates at the union's special national congress in Boksburg, on the East Rand.
 
Good on them, why should they pay for Zuma's house
 
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We will see an ANC/DA alliance in the future. I know some people won't like it, but you can't allow the ANC to ally with the extreme left.
 
They will stop making contributions to Cosatu.

Lets see what effect this has as I personally think all those fat cats will quickly jump ship and start supporting somebody else just as long as their pockets are not affected.
 
Garson007 said:
We will see an ANC/DA alliance in the future. I know some people won't like it, but you can't allow the ANC to ally with the extreme left.
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Doubt it. The DA will loose a **** load of support.

Personally, I wouldn't vote for them - I'm struggling at the moment to find reason to.
 
Numsa has crossed a Rubicon - not by dumping the ANC but by as a major trade union espousing the principle that its members political affiliations are a matter of individual conscience.
 
Garson007 said:
We will see an ANC/DA alliance in the future. I know some people won't like it, but you can't allow the ANC to ally with the extreme left.
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I doubt it - I don't believe either party would entertain the thought

However the prospects of an ANC and many smaller parties coalition government to keep the EFF and a "left" "workers" party out can't be discounted.
 
Don't be so quick to be happy about this. They're headed to the EFF. Here's one of Vavi's tweets about it:

“#Numsa will not split from COSATU. It demands an independent militant, anti capitalist/imperialist federation.
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Sad state of affairs when unions are akin to political parties. Luckily they only represent less than a quarter of a million workers.

People are quick to embrace factions and disquiet in the ANC, but those splitting are tending to be the ones looking for militant, extreme action against whites, and they're collating power. It's short term good news, but certainly not long term good news...
 
DJ... said:
Don't be so quick to be happy about this. They're headed to the EFF. Here's one of Vavi's tweets about it:

Sad state of affairs when unions are akin to political parties. Luckily they only represent less than a quarter of a million workers.

People are quick to embrace factions and disquiet in the ANC, but those splitting are tending to be the ones looking for militant, extreme action against whites, and they're collating power. It's short term good news, but certainly not long term good news...
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Its not the fracturing of the ANC that is important its the fact that this is without a doubt the largest instance of a trade union in South African history (including "white" unions) espousing the principle that members may vote according to their conscience:
Union members had the constitutional right to vote, but union members and officials would campaign in their own time and with their own resources.

"Any individual member is entitled in their own time to be active in any political party, including getting elected to leadership positions.

"However, no Numsa office bearer is allowed to hold any office bearer position of any political party," he said.
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There is a very very strong chance that a "workers party" will come into being but Numsa will be on the back foot to push its members into the union being "akin to a political party".

I don't see this as a dent of more than 2% off the ANCs tally but the principle of what I'd call labour tolerance is about as important as religious tolerance had on European politics.
 
I honestly don't understand Vavi. He always aligns himself with the wrong people, but he talks such a good game at times.
 
Garson007 said:
I honestly don't understand Vavi. He always aligns himself with the wrong people, but he talks such a good game at times.
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He was aligned with "the right people" for a long time, until he publicly opposed the Zuma ANC once or twice. So Zuma had him ousted.

But the union thing goes far deeper than that. Marikana was the lava that boiled over from a political volcano erupting beneath the surface...
 
DJ... said:
He was aligned with "the right people" for a long time, until he publicly opposed the Zuma ANC once or twice. So Zuma had him ousted.
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I know what you mean. I just honestly think he's a good guy and a bit naive, as all socialists are - and has repeatedly backed the morally wrong horse.
 
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