Article: Outrage after FW de Klerk CNN interview

Jola said:
But many populations also insist on the right not to be integrated and to be separate, as in the examples that he quoted.

And you may get different views in the same population.

This issue is not as simple as you try to make it out, many civil wars have been fought, and millions killed, over the right to be separate.

Just look at Scotland, there is still a strong faction that wants Scotland to be independent and separate.
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I suppose the only way to solve that issue is by voting and in SA, we voted yes :) ...... Majority rules.
 
blunomore said:
I suppose the only way to solve that issue is by voting and in SA, we voted yes :) ...... Majority rules.
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Yes, but the SA state entity where the voting took place was artificially created by imperialists.

What if that did not happen ?
 
Haldex, he's talking about self-determination and how the application of it in SA failed and was conducted in a morally reprehensible manner.

Do you disagree with the concept of self-determination in general?

As a side note, I see it didn't take Redi long to jump on her soapbox. Pfft.
 
Was Redi not the two faced who first said noooo Etag then bought one and told the public that we should go buy one or we will be breaking the law?
 
VJB 449 said:
Why? Sudan divided into two countries and the rest of the world is not crying about it.

The concept of division is not wrong, it's about how you go about to achieve it where the problem lies.
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That was a religious speration and both parties agreed, it was best for the country.

You suggesting a black and white SA? Thats just as racist as a bench for white people only.
 
Haldex said:
That was a religious speration and both parties agreed, it was best for the country.

You suggesting a black and white SA? Thats just as racist as a bench for white people only.
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Conflict is conflict. If race is such an issue, we should remove the issue, even if that means leaving the continent to africans only.
 
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If you read the entire interview you will see that despite whatever else he said, his conclusion was that Apartheid was indefensible, the system had failed, he had apologised for it and we have moved on from there.

If anyone wants to make any crap out of stuff from earlier in the interview, that's their problem (and their time wasted).

... moving on now.
 
TheHiveMind said:
Conflict is conflict. If race is such an issue, we should remove the issue, even if that means leaving the continent to africans only.
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Majority rules, so if everyone now decides to send all the white people to Lesotho, you should be happy with that right?
 
I cannot find the full video interview...the link just shows part of the interview I think

Cant see anything major wrong or otherwise in that part of the video ???
 
Garyvdh said:
If you read the entire interview you will see that despite whatever else he said, his conclusion was that Apartheid was indefensible, the system had failed, he had apologised for it and we have moved on from there.

If anyone wants to make any crap out of stuff from earlier in the interview, that's their problem (and their time wasted).

... moving on now.
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It amazes me that so many so-called "learned" people are quoting excerpts from the interview with adding the context in which he replied or made the comment.
 
MickeyD said:
It amazes me that so many so-called "learned" people are quoting excerpts from the interview with adding the context in which he replied or made the comment.
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People love to be offended.
 
Jola said:
They can't win, too many loons running around there !
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Exactly, unfortunately we have similar loons around locally.

In regard to the interview, I wish there was a transcript I can't imagine FW putting his foot in it like that.
 
However, De Klerk then reportedly appeared to defend the homeland system: "But the concept of giving, as the Czechs have it now, and the Slovaks have it, of saying that ethnic unity with one culture with one language [everyone] can be happy and can fulfil their democratic aspirations in an own state, that is not repugnant."
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i agree with that.
what i don't agree with is that you look at other races as diseased as many racists do who want the same thing. if other people had no obsession with the shortcomings of another race i'd fully support anyone who wanted to do this
 
Mila said:
Was Redi not the two faced who first said noooo Etag then bought one and told the public that we should go buy one or we will be breaking the law?
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she's a twat
 
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