Just a convenient excuse? These leeches want the complete farm, equipment, bank accounts, farmer knowledge and the farmers soul all at once as without it all they cannot achieve even zilch thus they sell off every valuable item on the land and then let it die. Zim2 to in the making as was predicted years ago.
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How is the government going to achieve the goal of land redistribution unless the amount of land that can be owned is capped? Those with the financial muscles will always acquire large tracks of land even if they don''t have any immediate plans to make it productive i.e. for speculative purposes. The primary purpose of land ownership should be to achieve food security for the whole country and should not be viewed as a means to accumulate individual wealth. Land is finite...just like all finite natural resources the government has the responsibility to control its ownership and usage for the benefit of all it's citizens. If you are not farming it that means you don't need it and therefore you should be able to cede it to anyone that will make it productive.
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Mila
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Why does the rich brothers not buy for the poor brothers?So easy to point fingers.
Buy some of the farms for sale in the farmers weekly.
Buy some of the farms for sale in the farmers weekly.
So you believe that many small farms can produce as much as the large farms? The [-]solution[/-]problem you suggest will create hundreds of new squatter camps at best.
porchrat
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Uh... willing buyer willing seller mate. The amount of land someone is allowed to own is neither here nor there. You can't limit someone's ability to prosper like that. It is unconstitutional. If someone can afford to purchase the land they should be permitted to.
and what is wrong with that? It is their money after all. If those that own the land are willing to sell it then what right do you or anyone have to tell them all to stop?!? :wtf:
No the primary purpose of land ownership should be whatever the person that owns the land wants to use it for. If someone just wants a massive piece of land to hike in undisturbed then that is their right. Neither you nor I nor the government have any right to tell someone else what to do with their property.
No it doesn't. Why should the government have any say over what you do with your property provided you aren't violating the rights of any other citizen?
No there are other uses for land other than farming. The government has no right to decide what you should and shouldn't be using YOUR land for.
EDIT: Our government in it's current state does not exist to make sure that property is always evenly distributed. We call that approach communism.
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Actually this solution of mine would also apply equally to them rich bruthers. If they happen to own more than the limit, it must be taken and redistributed.
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You can not just take private land!
techead
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come try and take my "land" and see what happens
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What limit? The limit you concocted in your brain in this thread? Your solution is worse than a communist plot and will never work anywhere in the world.
porchrat
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Why? Because you've decided people can't own more property than what some panel decides is a fair share?
You are basically capping an individual's prosperity and saying "beyond this point you just cannot have any more". That is ridiculous.
You cant just take land that's the 1st step of a mass exodus of skilled people from this country as everybody is afraid of Zim 2.0.
Maybe Malema can start taking you house /land/flat.
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You cannot cap a business like that - it's simply not feasible and really doesn't resolve the core issues of land reform. Any comments about my proposed solution? Why heavy-hand the situation when one can rather encourage, promote, educate and create jobs at minimal cost?
The current owners of land clearly do not want to play ball. Plus, the government's half assed attempt at redistribution is what has led the ANCYL to call for drastic measures. The government does not have a clear and effective policy regarding land ownership and redistribution. While they have set themselves these pie in the sky targets for redistribution one has to wonder how they are going redistribute what they don't even own. Why make promises of land redistribution if you are not man enough to carry them through?
For good reason. You're taking their entire livelihood away from them while compensating below market value, while still laying the blame for subsequent failure on their shoulders. The system is flawed, I agree - willing buyer, willing seller needs to form the crux of the system, with support infrastructure set up to compliment the transition. No need for absurd caps on size. Size does not correlate with profitablility whatsoever...
From that post I can only believe you are a Mad Malema supporter and are waiting or praying for the promise of the freebie in the form of land coming your way soon? They cannot redistribute what they do not own without repercussion. Look at Zim and then see what you are begging for!
Jabberwocky
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Why redistribute land at all? In what way would the 48950000 south africans that are not farmers be better off? Apart from a slight smug feeling of the dirt belonging to black people, and a much more immediate feeling of hunger.
Don't be a w@nker. He's far from that in my experience on these forums and you could yourself a favour by entering an actual debate with the bloke instead of jumping on the "Malema-supporter" bandwagon...
How else do you define the sentence
That said a lot to me.
How about the government starting my distributing the land they currently own instead of aiming on successful farmland ripe for plundering just because they are owned by white entrepreneurs that most probably bought the land and worked there butt off to make it a success, maybe they did not receive the land for free from Verwoerd? Mmmm?
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What does "play ball" mean exactly? I've seen this spoken about a lot lately in the whole land issues context.
I read it as government have cocked up with their land redistribution policies. I didn't read into it that he's a Malema supporter, nor that he's advocating Malema's suggestions...