axxess press release

If they find funding and things remain more or less as now, I will pay the new initial price, those guys have been very good with their customers so far and quite innovative.
 
this is evilution, not evolution as Telkom is claiming the internet to be
 
Wifi_Dude, 100% on R350 is not quite as severe as Telkom's proposed hike to roundabout R1800. Although I may have to settle for 10GB instead of my current 20, at least I'll be able to afford that with Axxess, but with the normal resellers not.
 
koffiejunkie said:
Wifi_Dude, 100% on R350 is not quite as severe as Telkom's proposed hike to roundabout R1800. Although I may have to settle for 10GB instead of my current 20, at least I'll be able to afford that with Axxess, but with the normal resellers not.
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Before you get to "excited", first get the new prices from them, it may not look to chappy.
 
moosag said:
Anyways I asked him about the whole 1 November issue. He pretty much said they are in meetings tommorow to get funding for setting their own infrastructure.
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Uhm, I really cannot credit this for a number of reasons.

Firstly if they are still in the process of securing funding then there is no way they will have anything come 1 November. Setting up your own infrastructure is a significant operation. Lets assume that they need to order and install significant quantities of kit. Not going to happen in two weeks. Seriously doubt it could happen in two months.

I guess it depends on what you mean by own infrastructure. This bit really confuses me. Does this mean their own International Bandidth? I doubt it. And if they are doing that, if it is even possible, we are probably talking about 1 November 2006. And how would they do that? Buy some Sat bandwidth from someone? They can't get at any of the cables. Telkom owns those. And as sure as God made little Green aliens they are not laying their own cable. And even if they did that, what about peering? Even IS can't get the peering with SAIX right.

And the legal aspect? Isn't the whole problem that people are NOT ALLOWED to self provision? Wasn't that what Ivy's "Clarification" (Read U Turn) at the beginning of the year all about?

Maybe they mean the infrastructure to use UUNET or IS bandwidth? Well if they haven't started now, not gonna happen by 1 November. And then how can they possibly give better pricing than IS?

The whole "Setting up their own infrastructure" thing seems a little (lot) far fetched to me.
 
Hey guys, just spokje to Axxess. Guy reckons they will hopefully know by this afternoon, and he realises it has been bit of a hold up. He said if all goes to plan they will be posting something by Monday, including here on this forum.
Also said the 30 gig accounts seem like they will be about double, so I think we can reckon on that for sure, and then obviously the 10gig accounts upwards will change slightly where as below that should not be affected at all.
Hope this helps, lets hold thumbs for Monday then.
Axxess, me likes.
 
They are not allowed to bring in their own int bandwidth which means buying from Telkom/Sentech or Tier 1s like IS, SAIX or UUNET (their competition). You also need content to bring costs down (for example, because IS have 70% of local content most local traffic never leaves their network...this reduces costs because LAN infrastructur is ALOT cheaper than PEERING/buying local bandwidth). Content isnt something you can just buy either.

If they are talking about IPC they need to pay somewhere around R25000 rand per 2mbit just to get the dsl traffic to them, they still need to buy bandwidth (once again from competitors) to give to their clients and nobody will want to peer with them (traffic only goes one way). And they dont have content.

So what I'm saying is if they do do it, its gonna be crap compared to IS and SAIX and there is no way around that unless they plan on loosing a huge pile of money over a really long time frame (many dsl providers in the us have done this to gain market share but they now have more subscribers than ZA has people).

Just a simple comparison... IS is telkoms biggest client they are listed thru Dimension Data (in two countries I think) and they have 70% of local content and they probably have more int traffic as SAIX. They have a cisco run network with the most expensive equipment (becuase they can afford to as they are hugely profitable) and have activley gone after market share. They are only just make dsl work.

IS have more employees than AXXESS have clients...I dont see how they can compete on their own infrastructure...
 
SAIX - IS - UUNET - Telkom still wins.
 
yeah, thats pretty much what I thought. I do suspect that Axxess are up to something, but that the in our hunger for information we are creating highly improbably rumours. The only thing I can possibly credit is that they are making some sort of deal with one of the existing players, to minimise (and not negate) the effect of 1 November.


P.s. Do we get to call 1 November 2005 "Black Tuesday" from now on? Or perhaps Telkom Tuesday?
 
killadoob... so what... reporters rocking up at their offices tonight? LOL.. u suuuuuuuuure you dont work for them?
 
We all know whats possible to do and not to do in this country with regards to telecoms. When I called the guy he was in Bloemfontein driving his way to JHB for a meeting sometime today.

I am just as confused as you are with regards to how,when they going to setup their stuff. The one thing I do appreciate from them is their honesty. He stated that the pricess will go up. And that I appreciate. I think everyone would agree with me that their customer service has been superb. Based on that fact I will support them 100% if their offers are reasonable.

But like you said you cant really believe that their infrastructure will be up in 2 weeks etc....
I am with you on that one. All I am going to do is to sit back quietly and wait... And see what happens come 1 November.
 
I think you guys have misinterpreted the infrastructure thing...
Maybe thats what he said, but meaning something completely different.
..one thing I can agree on with moosag, the message I got this morning is that they should know by this afternoon, as the guy is in Jo'burg this morning for a meeting! Whoever he is he is carrying the little envelope with the winner of this years Telkom-See-How-We-Can-Nail-You award!!!
 
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