Bad side effects from Pre-Workout

Eedubz said:
Believe it or not, my answer is still the same as when you asked this exact question last Tuesday, 19th September...
Cook on Sunday, put Monday-Wednesday meals in fridge, Thursday-Friday meals in freezer.
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Lol, Thanks bro! okay I read it this time!

SoulTax said:
Packing on Muscle and size takes a lot longer than packing on Fat. Don't expect any significant changes to your appearance in the short term. Especially if you are a lean person by nature.

I don't know how much you know or have asked around at gym, about exercising to gain mass. But you should be doing heavier weights and lower repetitions per exercise, as a general rule. So if you are doing dumbell presses with 14kg, and getting 3 sets of 12 reps, then go to 16kg rather and try for 8 reps. That sort of thing.

There is much more science to it, and much more nuance than can be put into a short forum post. But the general rule is that for every exercise you would have a 1 rep max weight. That means a weight that you can just manage to do a single rep of, and if you tried for another immediately afterwards, you would fail it. The closer you are to that 1 rep max weight, the more you will be bulking up.
It is still good to do lower weights and more reps from time to time, but in your case, you already have the lean look, you want to work on bulk a little more.

It is always good to start off with your first set of any exercise, being a high rep, manageable weight though. Just to warm your body up to the motion and make sure you are feeling it before diving in to a heavier weight.
I worked in a gym a long time ago now, and I remember guys walking in and trying to hit 3 sets of 3 rep max bench press as their first exercise. Spotting those guys is not fun at all.
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Okay so I did just this today. I took the 14s and 16s and did a set of 3 with the 16s doing 8 reps, on the last set I failed at 7 though.

I then did a bit of incline 14s and then moved to 12s because I was spent.

I only managed to do 3 chest exercises today my arms where broken!

I didn't do too well with my tricep exercises and went lighter in order to be able to complete my schedule.

But I feel good, this was the first time ever that I was able to lift 16kg in each hand! :)
 
Random Hero said:
Lol, Thanks bro! okay I read it this time!



Okay so I did just this today. I took the 14s and 16s and did a set of 3 with the 16s doing 8 reps, on the last set I failed at 7 though.

I then did a bit of incline 14s and then moved to 12s because I was spent.

I only managed to do 3 chest exercises today my arms where broken!

I didn't do too well with my tricep exercises and went lighter in order to be able to complete my schedule.

But I feel good, this was the first time ever that I was able to lift 16kg in each hand! :)
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I changed my routine to chest and bi's and then back and tri's, that way I can give it my all on my arms.
 
Patrick_Hockstetter said:
Im just saying that if you eat too much to bulk, you will increase fat.

My objective is to purely gain strength.
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Random Hero has said he wants to bulk up. The quickest way to do that is to eat at a calorie surplus. This will ensure maximum gains. If he is a hard gainer, your advise is terrible, as he may lose out. There will be some fat gain, but from the sounds of it, he could pick up a bit. We are not telling him to stuff his face, but to eat more. What he was eating was so low in calories (never mind the macros being off), I would be in diet mode.
 
Random Hero said:
Lol, Thanks bro! okay I read it this time!



Okay so I did just this today. I took the 14s and 16s and did a set of 3 with the 16s doing 8 reps, on the last set I failed at 7 though.

I then did a bit of incline 14s and then moved to 12s because I was spent.

I only managed to do 3 chest exercises today my arms where broken!

I didn't do too well with my tricep exercises and went lighter in order to be able to complete my schedule.

But I feel good, this was the first time ever that I was able to lift 16kg in each hand! :)
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Failure on 7 in your last set is a good thing. It shows that you were working a good weight.

There are lots of different ways to do the exercises. Do some research on which of them are good for bulking, it has been so long since I have had to use this knowledge I only really remembered the heavy+low reps = muscle mass and light+high reps = muscle tone, as that is easy to remember.
There are far more interesting ways to structure your sets though. Step downs where you start at a light weight to warm up but by the time you finish you are doing your final set with a weight that you cannot do more than 5 of.

Just always try to remember, that if you are doing failure sets, never use a bar in a lying down position unless you have a spotter. Failure set on bench press for instance, is better suited to using dumbells instead of the bar.
 
Some solid advise there.

MyBB may make Random Hero a BB after all. :crylaugh:
 
Lol, I really appreciate the advice just gotta get them gains now.

Is eating those brown bread rolls and making burgers alright every now and them when I get hungry?

Like now I am going to make a burger with the woolie brownbread rolls, with those thin patties you buy in 12s, bacon and an egg on it.

Do you have to completely avoid hamburgers?
 
Random Hero said:
Lol, I really appreciate the advice just gotta get them gains now.

Is eating those brown bread rolls and making burgers alright every now and them when I get hungry?

Like now I am going to make a burger with the woolie brownbread rolls, with those thin patties you buy in 12s, bacon and an egg on it.

Do you have to completely avoid hamburgers?
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No. Everything in moderation as long as it fits in with your macros. Would say avoid bread if you are dieting as it will make you more hungry, but I don't really see a reason why not to. I wouldn't eat those pre-packaged, frozen patties though. Rather make your own (from lean mince or chicken), or buy fresh ones.
 
Just a bit of response to the OP's original post regarding:

-Shortness of Breath
-Lungs felt tight and i struggled breathing for a while.

I had the exact same symptoms as well as a bit of dizziness (nothing drastic, just a bit uncomfortable)after changing my pre workout this week. I went from an Evox to a USN product. The big difference that I can see is that the Evox had 160gm caffeine vs the 300mg in the USN - so I can only surmise that, that must have been what caused it. Maybe neither of us being used to that level of caffeine intake caused the reaction
 
Ghoster79 said:
Just a bit of response to the OP's original post regarding:

-Shortness of Breath
-Lungs felt tight and i struggled breathing for a while.

I had the exact same symptoms as well as a bit of dizziness (nothing drastic, just a bit uncomfortable)after changing my pre workout this week. I went from an Evox to a USN product. The big difference that I can see is that the Evox had 160gm caffeine vs the 300mg in the USN - so I can only surmise that, that must have been what caused it. Maybe neither of us being used to that level of caffeine intake caused the reaction
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Perhaps it must have been such a huge surge in Caffeine. But I think it helped me to push up the level.
 
Ghoster79 said:
I had the exact same symptoms as well as a bit of dizziness (nothing drastic, just a bit uncomfortable)after changing my pre workout this week. I went from an Evox to a USN product. The big difference that I can see is that the Evox had 160gm caffeine vs the 300mg in the USN - so I can only surmise that, that must have been what caused it. Maybe neither of us being used to that level of caffeine intake caused the reaction
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His Evox has got 320mg of Caffeine.
 
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