Bandwidth Cap

[ebudae]

I see what your saying but there is some "contradiction" cause how can you listen to a radio station the whole month AND watch 30 trailers & listen pod-casts & watch videos online AND chat online with webcam! You cant do all of that at the same time, you'd need 8 eyes & ears!! Thus your initial bandwidth expectations will drop by say 33%. So maybe you dont need 30GB only 20GB

If you read my post correctly, you would see that I specifically specified only one hour a day for listening to radio.

And just so you know, I can listen to internet radio while still having DAP download files at 512Kb/s. It is possible to do many things at once, and again your argument is moot because many utilities running at once is supposed to be the point of broadband, another way in which our online experience is being hampered by slow connection speeds.

 

[Gathu]

If you have time, tell me what would you do with it, and estimate the amount of bandwidth used!

I.E. Online Gaming - 5GB
Youtube - 10GB

I`m just trying to see where everything goes!!!

See i have a 2GB bundle and to be honest i have to look for things (legal things) to download sometimes!

It's! not! what! I! can! do! with! it!. It's! what! I! can! not! do! with! the! limited! cap! currently!.
I only use 3GB or so per month - but that's due to self imposed restrictions to limit my cap usage. There is 100's of free legal multimedia content available - from free LEGAL tv shows downloads to free LEGAL music downloads to free LEGAL programs, cartoons, videos, porn, ect. ect. ect.

Al I can do is drool atm while ignoring all the goodies out there. 30GB will allow most people to just start to scratch the surface of the internet. At the moment I can blow 3 GB in 2-3 evening of light browsing and legal downloading if I follow my heart, and not my head.

Honestly - If you can't see where everything goes - you haven't really looked yet.

 

[Syndyre]

But this isnt America and we don't have the "unlimited" bandwidth they have to explore different things!

Exactly, and that's the problem.

 

[remybfg10k]

Sorry, this is probably pedantic - but 2GB of bandwidth doesn't exist!! Bandwidth refers to your connection speed - ie 512kbs or 4mbps. You all sound like fools speaking of a 30GB bandwidth cap. Rather refer to a data cap or something.

It is pedantic.

 

[milomak]

I see what your saying but there is some "contradiction" cause how can you listen to a radio station the whole month AND watch 30 trailers & listen pod-casts & watch videos online AND chat online with webcam! You cant do all of that at the same time, you'd need 8 eyes & ears!! Thus your initial bandwidth expectations will drop by say 33%. So maybe you dont need 30GB only 20GB!

I can watch tv and listen to music at the same time. There is something called volume control and pause. Listen to radio while surfing. see an intereting video. Load it up. When it finishes loading, mute radio and watch video. Or if I am not particularly interested in the audio of the video, mute the audio on the video and continue to listen to radio. multi-tasking is what it is called.

you also seem to not to be taking into account that there is a value for money arguement as well. we are saying for what we are paying, we believe 30Gb would be fair. And this is by looking at comparative pricing around the world. So it makes it a moot point whether we would actually use it all. we believe that we are getting far less than we should be for the price.

 

[remybfg10k]

If you read my post correctly, you would see that I specifically specified only one hour a day for listening to radio.

And just so you know, I can listen to internet radio while still having DAP download files at 512Kb/s. It is possible to do many things at once, and again your argument is moot because many utilities running at once is supposed to be the point of broadband, another way in which our online experience is being hampered by slow connection speeds.

Sorry i did misread, i`m also not arguing about low capping unless i`m coming across wrong, what i`m trying to discover is the true need for uncapped (legal) bandwidth!

If you download video while watching video, when do you get time to watch everything

 

[rwenzori]

its the people shouting that they want 100GB that makes me wonder what on earth do they need so much bandwidth for!

Well I do about 50-60 gig of MP3s a month, plus another 10 gig of other stuff. I collect music. It is perfectly legal in our country to download MP3s for personal and private use. That's why I need the bandwidth.

 

[remybfg10k]

Honestly - If you can't see where everything goes - you haven't really looked yet.

I can honestly say i do know where all the illegal things are! Its my fascination with people who are venting anger and frustation at not having 100GB/uncapped bandwidth! 100GB of legal things a month

 

[remybfg10k]

Well I do about 50-60 gig of MP3s a month, plus another 10 gig of other stuff. I collect music. It is perfectly legal in our country to download MP3s for personal and private use. That's why I need the bandwidth.

Legal/ Free Mp3's yes, but there isn't enough (good) indie bands / free music to give you 60gig of MP3 a month.

And yes its illegal to download copyrighted music that you havent paid for, even if you use it for personal use, not sure why you say its perfectly legal?

 

[milomak]

I really don't think there are people who are saying they want 100GB/uncapped international for home use. and as i said before i think they woud rightly recognise it would be at a cost higher than what we currently pay.

 

[rwenzori]

Legal/ Free Mp3's yes, but there isn't enough (good) indie bands / free music to give you 60gig of MP3 a month.

And yes its illegal to download copyrighted music that you havent paid for, even if you use it for personal use, not sure why you say its perfectly legal?

Another innocent victim of music industry propaganda it seems. You are incorrect. From our copyright act:

12. (1) Copyright shall not be infringed by any fair dealing with a literary or musical work—
(a) for the purposes of research or private study by, or the personal or private use of, the person using the work

See these posts by Peter_J:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=484542&postcount=34
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=502334&postcount=19

 

[milomak]

While I'd like to see it tested in a court of law, the fact that it is often said that RIAA target uploaders would seem to suggest that downloading is not illegal.

 

[rwenzori]

I really don't think there are people who are saying they want 100GB/uncapped international for home use. and as i said before i think they woud rightly recognise it would be at a cost higher than what we currently pay.

I have uncapped for home use. Costs me plenty. I have done > 90 gig international one month.

 

[rwenzori]

While I'd like to see it tested in a court of law, the fact that it is often said that RIAA target uploaders would seem to suggest that downloading is not illegal.

The RIAA is an American institution. It has zero to say in the RSA. But uploading is very much outlawed here.

The local RISA lot would be very stupid to test the current SA law in court - they stand to lose waaaaaaay too much if judgement goes against them.

 

[milomak]

really this arguement by remy is irrelevant unless he believes that everyone in the US and UK with 30GB+ packages use them for mostly illegal content

 

[TheLoot]

I always thought downloadin' MP3s was against the law :0 Man I hate ignorance !

 

[Syndyre]

I have uncapped for home use. Costs me plenty. I have done > 90 gig international one month.

I've done 180GB+

 

[remybfg10k]

really this arguement by remy is irrelevant unless he believes that everyone in the US and UK with 30GB+ packages use them for mostly illegal content

I think you don't seem to understand something, i`m not ARGUING the point, i`m asking questions because i wondered about it, i`ve agreed with MANY things said by people on this thread. This is a DISCUSSION.

 

[remybfg10k]

I've done 180GB+

ouch!

I wish i even had 180GB free on my disk......

 

[milomak]

well given:

1. there are countries which have user caps at 30GB
2. at much more affordable rates than here

it stands to reason that what we are asking for is within reason. furthermore unless you believe that elsewhere in the world people cannot use those caps on just legal stuff, one can extroplate that given we all use the same internet it is also possible in SA to use 30GB on just legal stuff.