Beware the fog light cop!!

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nah mine is two seperate buttons on the dash, next to the boot open button, and door lock button :)

i rate its better, as dumb ppl, just turn a thing the whole way, and see front on, and think cool, meanwhile we blinded at the back... mine you'll notice the second button doesn't do anything at the front.. suppose some retards will still press all buttons
 
And once you put on the front fogs the back ones come on too, go check...

No, they're separate (on my car at least.)

I keep mine on because I get much better peripheral lighting that way. Not sure what all the fuss is about though - I've encountered oncoming fog lights every night I drive and they have never bothered me in the least - they're certainly not harsh. It's the twits who drive with their brights on that annoy me as that really is a nuisance.
 
Ive never ever thought to myself "Oh nooooo Im blinded by that guys fogs!" I mean really. wtf are you guys on about?
 
No, they're separate (on my car at least.)

I keep mine on because I get much better peripheral lighting that way.

and the use of peripheral lighting is good for what?

In clear conditions, more foreground light is not a good thing, it's a bad thing. Some foreground light is necessary so you can use your peripheral vision to see where you are relative to the road edges, the lane markings and that pothole 10 feet in front of your left wheels. But foreground light is far less safety-critical than light cast well down the road into the distance, because at any significant speed (much above 60 kph), what's in the foreground is too close for you to do much about. If you increase the foreground light, your pupils react to the bright, wide pool of light by constricting, which in turn substantially reduces your distance vision—especially since there's no increase in down-the-road distance light to go along with the increased foreground light. It's insidious, because high levels of foreground light give the illusion, the subjective impression, of comfort and security and "good lighting".
 
and the use of peripheral lighting is good for what?

For some of the very reasons you quoted. I feel a lot better driving with them on, and having faced oncoming fog lights myself on plenty occasions, I honestly believe that this is a whole heap of tripe that's being spewed about. I've never had an issue with them at all, in fact, I have never even considered that they are dangerous because they have never ever bothered me in the least little bit, and I have been driving for many years. Nor have I ever heard this from any of my mates, family, colleagues, acquaintances etc.

What a load of bollocks!!!! I've seen them from afar, and I've seen them up close, and they have never even remotely been an issue.
 
What a load of bollocks!!!! I've seen them from afar, and I've seen them up close, and they have never even remotely been an issue.

Look I can't force you to do the right thing. The facts I've presented, in my opinion, are the right thing to do. They are based on research and the reason why road laws about fogs exist. I was previously like you, driving with my fogs on, thinking I'm right. But I don't any more because I've educated myself and made a choice.
I try to be a courteous driver in a world where politeness on the road is quickly diminishing. If you choose to ignore, then so be it.
 
I got caught a demerit for driving with my fogs on...
R500 and 1 demerit. I had no plates on in front, but he didnt care, coz he only catches drivers for foglights wtf!!??!!

Anyway my judge friend understood that the fine is steep, charged me R100 and removed my demerit.

PS on the fine it explains how demerits work, on your 13th demerit you and the relevant car is banned for 3 months. It also takes 3 months to lose 1 demerit.

Watch out guys...
Why don't you have plates on in the front?
 
I don't get it, aren't fog lights sposed to be aimed to go under the fog, low on the road, so how do they shine in your eyes? On my previous cars the fog lights have always sat on the bottom of the bumper.
 
JK8

Pls can you scan a copy of that fine ? AFAIK there is no fine for driving with your fog lights on. Unless you had them durban jobs globes in there. No traffic cop in the world can write you a ticket for driving with your fog lights on :confused:
 
I don't get it, aren't fog lights sposed to be aimed to go under the fog, low on the road, so how do they shine in your eyes? On my previous cars the fog lights have always sat on the bottom of the bumper.

Have a look at the link posted earlier. It shows the results of tests done with lighting effects.

You'll soon notice how the light is amplified etc.

Ever since I read that piece I've stopped driving with my fogs on all together. It makes alot of sense.

On some occasions if it's not dark yet, but overcast etc I would drive with park lights + fog lights on - since it does not result in the same glaring effect.
 
I think it's about time they start doing this! But surely driving without a number plate is a more serious offence than driving with your fog lights on. BTW, when is the new Gauteng numberplates coming into effect?

Driving with your fog lights and when there's no fog is just not acceptable! I understand when it's raining extremely hard and you can't see they in front of you.......

But you guys driving with the fog lights on when there's nothing but clear skies!
 
Have a look at the link posted earlier. It shows the results of tests done with lighting effects.

You'll soon notice how the light is amplified etc.

Ever since I read that piece I've stopped driving with my fogs on all together. It makes alot of sense.

On some occasions if it's not dark yet, but overcast etc I would drive with park lights + fog lights on - since it does not result in the same glaring effect.

Yes, but that is for people viewing you not you viewing the road. I see better when driving with my Fog lights on in fog than with my head lights on. The test you read is from a 3rd person and not the driver.
 
I think it's about time they start doing this! But surely driving without a number plate is a more serious offence than driving with your fog lights on. BTW, when is the new Gauteng numberplates coming into effect?

Driving with your fog lights and when there's no fog is just not acceptable! I understand when it's raining extremely hard and you can't see they in front of you.......

But you guys driving with the fog lights on when there's nothing but clear skies!

I fail to see how this affects you if there is clear skies ?

Surely if I drive with my headlights on during a normal sunny day when I tak elong trips would then also bug you ? btw that is what you do if you support the Arrive Alive camp.

So I fail to see any grounds for your personal peev with it ;)
 
Why? I'm not a fan of drivers who use fog lights as a fashion item, but this cop ignored a missing number plate in favour of a fog light violation. I consider a guy driving without plates to be a lot more serious than someone driving with their fogs on.

Technically, fog lights would be a safety issue, and number plates a policing issue, so driving with fog lights on could be seen as a more serious offence.

JK8

Pls can you scan a copy of that fine ? AFAIK there is no fine for driving with your fog lights on. Unless you had them durban jobs globes in there. No traffic cop in the world can write you a ticket for driving with your fog lights on :confused:

It's illegal as per section 163 of the National Road Traffic Act. You can be fined for breaking the law.
 
I fail to see how this affects you if there is clear skies ?

Surely if I drive with my headlights on during a normal sunny day when I tak elong trips would then also bug you ? btw that is what you do if you support the Arrive Alive camp.

So I fail to see any grounds for your personal peev with it ;)

Clear Skies = Night

Blue Skies = Day

and no it won't bother me when you drive with your normal driving lights on during the day......my normal driving lights is always on because I drive a dark grey / charcoal car, and I wish that everyone would do this because it makes people more aware..........
 
Technically, fog lights would be a safety issue, and number plates a policing issue, so driving with fog lights on could be seen as a more serious offence.



It's illegal as per section 163 of the National Road Traffic Act. You can be fined for breaking the law.

Do you have a copy or a link of that ?
I would be interrested to have a look at it ;)

nvm, googling it.
 
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