shooter69
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Tsek GNOME. I want to Live forever!! I will adapt.
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Biohacking/Longevity and reversing aging
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No need to adapt if you live on a game farm.
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I'm surprised that somebody hasn't quoted Highlander yet. Or Heinlein - that'd be favourite.
Haha, I think I've proven my point. People are always adamant their way is the best.
Everything changes with time and you don't know what you don't know. You have no idea what the future holds. Especially when you look at our progress the last 100 years.
You have the perfect opportunity now...
Sure, but there's a bit of a disconnect to be passionate about a computer and have no passion at all about the care of the most important machine of them all - the body; without it nothing else matters. We have a bit of a blindspot with regards to the care of our own machinery. Maybe it's a relic of an age of spirituality and religion - when we considered as fundamental the eternal soul and gave less regard to the flesh. We seem to care more about the petrol we put in our car than what we put into our bodies.
Actually you should be doing the reverse. You should be fasting a lot more. Look at the research involving fasting and longevity - it helps a lot. Even intermittent fasting is beneficial for longevity. You do not need to eat 5 times per day - this is old and outdated body builder advice. New studies examined this and found that it is no better for muscle growth or weight loss.
Too much. Not only does your body need rest, it also needs some variety. Add some walking and even some play (ie social sports or something).
Funnily enough coffee has proven longevity benefits - it elongates your telomeres.
Remove the multivitamin - studies show that the anti oxidants added by them do more harm than good. Add vitamin D unless you get enough sunlight.
This is what autophagy. Autophagy is the process by which cells repair themselves or "consume" damaged cells. It can only happen if you are fasting or if you exercise.
I think fundamentally we are genetically programmed to not care about it. As soon as your hunger goes away, as far as your body is concerned, it is a solved problem. Similar with many other things (eg. global warming is ignored because well, I like my car, am I right?)
If everyone in the world cared about eating healthy our progress as species would be severely limited.
Who on earth would mine asbestos/silicone/coal/etc. if they actually spent time thinking about their bodies
Terrible to think about but because of the years of their life they sacrificed I get more.
Your argument works in reverse too: That a lack of care hinders our development.
When we started manufacturing 'food' in factories in the 60's and 70's and filled our shelves with fizzy drinks and a plethora of refined ****, that was the time to start caring about it. Just because we might be programmed not to care about it, doesn't mean the programming is to be slavishly obeyed. And besides, caring about your health doesn't entail a halting of progress - our progress as a species isn't hindered because you choose to read fiction or tinker with model airplanes.
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Your death is doing too much rather than too little.
4) weight training to maintain physical form is fine but starting to look like mini-hulk is not going to do you any favours.
5) massive misinformation. You're likely to die of kidney or digestive complications because you're washing out all the good things along with the bad. Kidneys can only process so much water, either causing toxin build up or sodium depletion. Your colon also gets too flushed, flushing out the good food processing bacteria out with the bad. Remember, everything you eat also has a hydration factor and factors into the total amount of water intake during the day.
6) Taking supplements is very risky. To much and your body stops the processes to make it's own because of an excess in supply. Can also add additional burden to your kidneys because it needs to flush anything in excess.
Get your supplements from foods, so that your body has to work to get at them. If you make them easy to acquire, the body will simply shut down whatever mechanism it uses to process them. Else you're going to be a slave to those pills for eternity.
Right now, it sounds like you're giving your kidneys a big hammering with everything you're putting them through.
The most true rule in life, everything in moderation.
Thank you for your valuable input Ancalagon, some clarification on my earlier post
Im following the feedback from people practicing intermittent fasting, but waiting for more conclusive evidence as theoretically it doesnt seem as the right thing to do to your body, however from the diet perspective (something I should have mentioned in the first post) been following low-carb shock diet, known as ketosis (1 week on 3 weeks off)
I dont do cardio at all, from my research weight training benefits outweigh any cardio effort. What I mean by weight training is not picking up heavy weights daily, but variation of exercises and intensity levels, but with intention not to fall into a routine but to keep your body guessing and taking it into shock for those health benefits.
Agreed and while not drinking coffee per se, I include coffee beans in my morning shake together with honey, oats, fruits and nuts.
Im following the feedback from people practicing intermittent fasting, but waiting for more conclusive evidence as theoretically it doesnt seem as the right thing to do to your body, however from the diet perspective (something I should have mentioned in the first post) been following low-carb shock diet, known as ketosis (1 week on 3 weeks off)
I dont do cardio at all, from my research weight training benefits outweigh any cardio effort. What I mean by weight training is not picking up heavy weights daily, but variation of exercises and intensity levels, but with intention not to fall into a routine but to keep your body guessing and taking it into shock for those health benefits.
Agreed and while not drinking coffee per se, I include coffee beans in my morning shake together with honey, oats, fruits and nuts.
Not in the case of most things. We can't make Vitamin C, for instance. We need it from our diet. This is why scurvy is a thing. Nonetheless, I don't recommend supplementing vitamin C - just eat fresh vegetables and fruit and you will be fine.
Supplementing Vitamin D is a good idea because, while we can make it, we need sunlight to do so, and most of us don't get enough sunlight. Omega 3 fatty acids from fish are another example - we can make upconvert plant Omega 3 to animal Omega 3, we just aren't very efficient at it. Better to get it from animal sources.
Ideally one should live an active life in nature, never sit behind a desk, never use a computer, always spend some time in the sun every day, be moderately active every day, and eat a variety of fresh vegetables, fruit, meat, fish and nuts. But no one can do that. We all unfortunately need money to survive. We can't eat fish every day (eating canned fish every day is not good for you due to BPA).
Just think about this - what makes you think fasting is bad? Was it something someone told you that they believed? I'm guessing it was.
People have been fasting for millenia. Every major religion includes fasting - Judaism does, Islam does, Hinduism does. Back in the day before civilisation, nobody was guaranteed a meal. You ate when you could, and yet people survived. They even thrived. How can fasting be BAD for you, if done occasionally?
I didn't say cardio - I don't do that either and I'm glad you don't. I said things like walking and playing, other types of activity. Play frisbee with friends. Or catch, or cricket, or whatever. Go on long walks. Go on hikes - there are studies on the benefits of simply being in nature.
err, how is keeping your body revved at maximum performance efficiency going to improve your long term?
I agree, there are short term, performance and fitness benefits, but being in a constant state of shock hardly sounds like a healthy state to be in.
Sorry dude, it really sounds like you're trying to run a sports car and using "health benefits" of the practises you have adopted to overcome the cognitive dissonance of the practise itself.
3L of water? no, 2L of hydration a day including everything you have taken in that is not water. Coffee, wine, cabbage, steak etc. Everything has enough water in it to allow you to only need about 3-6 (@250ml) glasses of water a day.
I think I may have mis-presented a little. If your body has a choice, process these vitamins in the orange I ate, or simply absorb the vitamins from the tablets.
You body will simply absorb the vitamins and discard what it doesn't need. In the long term, the processes with which the body gets at the vitamins in the food become redundant because they're readily available in an absorb-able format and therefore become scaled down.
Similarly, people with anger or depression management issues, have more anger/depression receptors in their cells than any other. In a perfect catch 22 scenario, because of the increased receptors, the thyroid then increases production of anger emotion chemicals and reduces the output of others.
Once you get off the tablets, you may find you get very close to getting scurvy while your body tries to re-instate the processes it used to use to get vitamin C from oranges.
Like a fever, the body is both stupid and clever at the same time. A fever brings the body temperature up to a point where it is no longer viable for the bacteria/virus to thrive and therefore it dies off. However, the body in an attempt to fight off the infection may tip the scale beyond the point of return, causing brain damage or even death.
Hence, rather get the supplements from a varied diet than from an artificial source and don't encourage your body over a tipping point you cannot come back from easily.
on a psychological side-note, I would be equally worried about the almost obsessive need to avoid death, almost giving up on living, in order to not be dead...
There are plenty of things I am not, there are much more meaningful things that I am
There are plenty of things I am not, there are much more meaningful things that I am
To your point earlier, everything is good in moderation, so important aspect is to listen to your body with test and trial, my rule of thumb with regards to water intake is to keep the pee colourless, so from past experience thats the amount of water it takes daily.
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You have already washed out all of your electrolytes if you pee is colorless, which is not healthy for you.
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Unless he's Frankenstein, you probably meant electrolytes
.That's also just a bull**** platitude. I don't think cola is good in moderation, or twinkies or crack is good in moderation. 'Everything is good in moderation' only works when the overwhelming majority of stuff we can choose from is healthy whole foods. When the majority is refined junk then no, not everything is good in moderation.