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Question of the Day: How much money are you willing to pay for a smartphone?
BlackBerry vs Android vs iPhone: Vodacom smartphone statistics
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256k might cut it on a BB not on a iPhone or similar, you don't.....for lack of a better word want to "dumb down" the whole experience with measly 256k it would be defeating the object of having a iPhone. With a BB the internet/mulitmedia experience is like pulling teeth.
Sure you could have different tiers of service depending on what quality of service you wanted. But if I had to port the BB services to my iPhone now in it's current state I'd rather be charged my current 3G package prices.
Elimentals
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Because OEM's like Samsung and HTC dont only make Android phones. Samsung for example have Microsoft, BADA and Android phones.
Also the fact that Android users are not brand loyal I guess, seeing that most would switch from HTC to Samsung to Motorola without thinking twice. For me its who delivers the best hardware for my OS, not "I am stuck with RIM hardware because I want to use BIS"
Hey Roux, I see you are still flogging the dead horse of Nokia 
You were doing that 2 years ago last I looked.
I thought this discussion was about smartphones, and Nokia was not mentioned for good reason. I will be the first to admit that Nokia make solid, cheap phones. You can drop-kick them and they will probably still work. But they are aimed at a different market - domestic servants, school kids etc. They are very good at making a call and receiving a call, but that is about it. Oh, and they can tell you the date and time. But they really don't have an answer when it comes to smartphones.
You were doing that 2 years ago last I looked.I thought this discussion was about smartphones, and Nokia was not mentioned for good reason. I will be the first to admit that Nokia make solid, cheap phones. You can drop-kick them and they will probably still work. But they are aimed at a different market - domestic servants, school kids etc. They are very good at making a call and receiving a call, but that is about it. Oh, and they can tell you the date and time. But they really don't have an answer when it comes to smartphones.
Rouxenator
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I have been using them for 15 years and since the start I have been told by Phillips, Siemens, Ericsson, Alcatel and who-knows-what-else phone users that death of Nokia is imminent.
Needless to say I never believed it because its never true.
As to not having an answer for smartphones? Geez, Apple limits them self to one OS, so does blackberry and android IS one OS. Nokia on the other hand makes many OSes and many phones running different OSes. I think that is the most complete product portfolio out there and a sure way to have something for everyone.
Then again, as you said two years ago, Nokia is dead. They that must happen now is they must just die.
Needless to say I never believed it because its never true.
As to not having an answer for smartphones? Geez, Apple limits them self to one OS, so does blackberry and android IS one OS. Nokia on the other hand makes many OSes and many phones running different OSes. I think that is the most complete product portfolio out there and a sure way to have something for everyone.
Then again, as you said two years ago, Nokia is dead. They that must happen now is they must just die.
And that's the point if RIM did go Multi-platform with BIS no one in their right mind would stay on a RIM device. In essence they shooting themselves in the foot by going Multi-platform hoping that people will pay a monthly sub for BIS. Talk about being stuck between a rock and a hard place.
They could just save themselves the bother and bring out a devices that is a bit more relevant.
Polymathic
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I can understand why Android devices are not selling well on Vodacom, their normal contract don't come with any decent data and their top-ups are grossly over priced.
Then surely this should have been showing products? i.e
Blackberry, iPhone, Samsung Galaxy, Motorolla Droid, etc
My wife finally ditched her bb for the S2 on a topup 315 for R399pm.
Elimentals
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Thats gonna be harder to calculate as Bada and Symbian is not seen as Smartphone OS's. LG for Example have Symbian, Android and Bada phones.
Just stick with whats easier. Say Blackberry/iOS/Android even when we know the 1st 2 only comes from RIM and Apple.
Edit: For the Nokia troll... I am referring to the Symbian versions that LG use, not the version found on N8.
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On a side note, I recently upgraded from an iPhone 3GS to a Samsung Galaxy S2, I've never really been a fanboy of any phone manufacturer but enjoyed what the iPhone had to over, now that I've been on Android for a couple of weeks I'm really impressed especially if you're an avid gmail / google docs user. It's an awesome OS, I'm really happy with it. Also reports indicate Samsung sold 65% more phones that Apple. With Android constantly maturing it's an incredible OS, and it's Google, what else could you want!
Source: http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+Po...rcent+More+Phones+Than+Apple/article23140.htm
Source: http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+Po...rcent+More+Phones+Than+Apple/article23140.htm
It's not about this, that or the other. It is about the combination of things. The company that offers the best combination of the things most important to end-users will outsell their competitors. BlackBerry does best in SA because in the South African realities RIM offers the best combination of those things that matters most to South African consumers. It is up to the competitors to come up with a better combination ... but SA is such an insignificant blip on their radars that they don't really care.
We can argue here for forever-and-a-day and not change market forces. The majority of buyers get what they believe to be the best solution from RIM in collaboration with the networks. The geek stuff we care about doesn't matter to them. There's more to consumer choices than the best spec sheets (many engineers fail to appreciate this).
We can argue here for forever-and-a-day and not change market forces. The majority of buyers get what they believe to be the best solution from RIM in collaboration with the networks. The geek stuff we care about doesn't matter to them. There's more to consumer choices than the best spec sheets (many engineers fail to appreciate this).
^ Agree. There are still many other devices out there. I would not write Nokia off yet, as WP7 could prove to be a popular platform. Had very bad experience with WP6, so if I were to change now from Blackberry, it would be to Android or iPhone. Reality is that as beVonk! said it is all about the overall package and as it stands right now blackberry have a huge userbase, so if most of your contacts have BBM, you will most likely opt to join them. Except of course for the more technically minded people as shown in this thread.
Rouxenator
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This is a good direction you are thinking along. So allow me to take it a little further.
Honestly speaking the only reason people get black berry is because of the "free" messaging and "free" internet.
That is what makes black berry sell phones.
If all other makes, like Samsung, HTC, Apple, Nokia, LG, Alcatel and the lot all told the networks they want their own virtual ISP network on top of the mobile network can you image what a nightmare that would be? It simply is not possible, and if it is not possible for all then it should not be possible for one.
As soon as BB gets too big it will fold. Either their virtual network will choke (as happened recently) or the networks will up the price of the service because they will be loosing too much money on it.
BB can't grow without dying.
WHY must this service be brand specific?
WHY can't - I mean WON'T Vodacom/MTN/8ta/Virgin/ETC offer a service like BIS for ALL brands?
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Rouxenator
Dank meme lord
Again, it does not have to be - but the network will NEVER allow all the other phone makers to do the same as BB. And RIM is not going to allow traffic from other phone makers on their network. At the same time their network is dying.
The BB network ecosystem is killing itself.
Data prices are coming down by the day. If the argument is valid that people get BB's only because of "free" data then RIM's market share in SA should rapidly decline with the decline in data prices. I suspect that this will not be the case. My experience is that consumers buy BB's for a lot of reasons, and not just for "free" data. I often find that people attach a high value to owning a BlackBerry ... to be "in", to be part of the community of Berry users. It's a clan thing as much as a value thing. Again, this is something many engineers miss.
Nerfherder
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*sigh
Because its not offered buy the service providers... its offered by BLACKBERRY.
Its their service, their infrastructure and their product.
Only thing Voda/mtn do is resell the service.