Blended interconnect rate conundrum

mother@#%$%s, cant believe them. I knew something was up........

I want to know what you where thinking Mr. Communications Minister Siphiwe Nyanda
 
The whole Cell C angle stinks worse than the fish section at Pick n Pay.

Why are they so quiet about this whole issue? What are they not telling us? Why are they not as vocal as ECN and Vox? I would have expected them to be banging louder than these guys...
 
This means that more calls are terminated during off-peak times than peak times, but under the new deal negotiate by Nyanda there are no termination rate price cuts for after-hours calls.
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Um, serial!

Why the freck would it be cheaper to terminate a call after hours?

This is also an attempt to get to real actual cost base figures.

Are these operators paying less for electricity after hours?

There is nothing wrong with insisting on a fixed cost based on real costs, this article is barking up the wrong tree altogether.
 
The lower peak interconnect rate means that the business sector will benefit most from the recently announced agreement.
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Or, perhaps we will all start using these services irrespective of the time-and-savings factor?
i.e. Benefit benefit.

If Cell C was dedicated to ensuring lower rates to its low-LSM user base, which would prefer cheaper after hours calls ...
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Assumption.
EDIT: Actually, cheapest calls possible with clean-cut clear to compare competition is the aim.
 
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To hell with this peak and off-peak crap. It should converge to one price. I like this move to be honest - it's a good start. Why must low income groups be forced to wait until after 8pm in order to make a call? Why should daytime calls be beyond their reach?
 
well i already saw the effect the price changes had on getting even a upgrade. I had a pro call 120 and could get a R7000 phone with my contract for free. Now even on a anytime 750 I need to pay in R1000 for a R8000 phone...wtf
 
Yea, but i think there's a chicken-egg issue here too. People [low income/whatever] phone in off-peak times -because- it is cheaper, not necessarily because it is a good time of day to phone people. The whole concept of off-peak is kinda artificially created, which now might disappear if the costs are so close between peak/off-peak...

If off-peak and peak had the exact same pricing, would those ratios they throw out there still stand? Maybe some people are now in a routine of phoning everyone at 9pm, but maybe they would equally made the same call at 5pm if it cost the same...

Even with the MTN vs Vodacom ratios being quite different, it might be related to their offerings "forcing" aka "encouraging" people to phone in off-peak times more/less, not the userbase that mysteriously like to phone late at night.
 
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I organize my business during the day. I do not call clients Between 8PM and 8AM to organize or do something.

If I want to go out on a Friday night after work I call people during lunch on a Friday afternoon...

The only time I call during "off-peak" times, is when i'm doing drunk dialing. This is a non-issue. Most calls will take place during the day, that is now cheaper. WTF is the problem?
 
Peak rates were initially set when most cell customers were business and phoned in the mid-morning and mid-afternoon. The operators had to spend on expansion to allow for this. Their peak costs are related to expansion and not electricity bills.

As more non-business people got cellphones, the peak in traffic moved to the off-peak time but the operators could not hike rates immediately because of ICASA. They are only allowed an inflation-capped increase every year. I think they have however pushed up the off-peak rate more than the peak rate

The prepaid tariffs these days seem more competitive than the contract tariffs. Prepaid customer numbers are growing far faster than contract.

There is little chance Cell C could get have net incoming calls off peak. The report must 'do the math'. There is enough published info to do some calculations. How can an operator with under 20% market share have more calls coming in then going out?!!

As a contract user I pay a fixed rate for peak and off-peak. This irks me as I feel like I'm paying a lot for all calls. I'm more than happy that the peak MTR is coming down. I just need my single-rate to come down now...

Another thing - what about incoming calls from overseas. These have always been cheap for Telkom calls and very expensive for mobile calls. Let's hope these can come down a little so my relatives don't get fleeced every time they call my mobile.

History clearly shows that as call costs come down, call volumes go up. I wouldn't be surprised if the operators ended up profiting from these changes.
 
my opion is the cell operators dont want more volume on there over subscribed networks
 
100% Correct and it's factual.

Weasley said:
my opion is the cell operators dont want more volume on there over subscribed networks
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If it's worth anything.

I have mates that work on the main frame for Vodacom & Cell-C.

If i told you guys that Cell-C with just a few million subscribers have their Network running at 90% capacity and at R3 a minute this is happening.

You would never believe it.

Now imagine what the VodaCom network is running at with some 20 odd million subscribers also @ R2.85 a minute.

Lower interconnect rates will increase traffic from :

ECN
VOX
Telkom
Neotel
Iburst
Mweb
Internet Solutions
ALL the Very Small ISP's

Now think, do they really want to lose revenue to all of the above Companies.

The answer is a simple NO



DXL - Team
 
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