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I see Usyk and a few other current and ex Ukrainian boxers have all left their boxing careers to sign up to fight Russia. Good on them, hope they are OK.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
Tyson apparently retiring after this fight?
Scared of you know who?

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He talks about retirement a lot.
I get what he is saying though but would like to see him put everything on the line.

I would be surprised if he is scared to fight Usyk, i wouldnt be surprised if he has run out of motivation and is over it.
 
D said:
Other than

Oleksandr Usyk
Vasiliy Lomachenko
Vitali Klitschko

who else went back to join the military in Ukraine?
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I thought it was both Klitschko brothers but otherwise that was the list.
 
syntax said:
He talks about retirement a lot.
I get what he is saying though but would like to see him put everything on the line.

I would be surprised if he is scared to fight Usyk, i wouldnt be surprised if he has run out of motivation and is over it.
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True, might also just be to hype up the next fight. Early PPV sales might not be what Bob expected.
 
I watched almost every world strongest man event since it started. I know it is only an exhibition fight, but im looking forward to Bjornson vs Hall
 
The Jam said:
www.sabcsport.co.za

SA’s Lerena to fight Romania’s Dinu on Saturday

Respected South African boxing promoter, Rodney Berman, says the country will soon produce a top international heavyweight. South African boxer Kevin Lerena will be
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I assume this will be on TV this weekend? Dinu is a big oke.
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That was about all he was, a big oke.
Good for Lerena on taking the victory, I very much doubt he will go far against anyone remotely able.
 
Die Uwe said:
That was about all he was, a big oke.
Good for Lerena on taking the victory, I very much doubt he will go far against anyone remotely able.
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Have been to some live fights of Lerena and he has skills. The main concern I had with his fighting style is he is too cautious sometimes and he would hit back with one where he should have landed a combo. He did defend his IBO Cruiser belt 5 times though which is not nothing. That being said I do not think he is of the level of Usyk, Wilder, or Joshua. Still, I would like to see how high he can get in the Heavy division.

Edit: Boxrec has lerena at rank 35 globally in the heavy division. In Cruiser he was top 5 for a while before moving up.
 
Cius said:
I see Kevin Lerena is doing his first title fight at Heavyweight on 26th Feb. After defending is IBO World cruiser title 6 times he is now challenging the Heavy division. Good luck to him. This fight is for the WBA intercontinental belt.
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Heavyweight Kevin Lerena (27-1, 14 KO's) scores a knockdown in the 3rd & two more in fourth for a KO-4 victory over Bogdan Dinu (20-4) to claim the vacant WBA Inter-Continental title at Emperor's Palace - the palace of dreams - in Gauteng, South Africa
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I find it a little weird when after 1 pro fight as a heavy weight he is the WBA inter-continental heavy weight champion. Boxing is slightly farcical in the 21st century.. or am I wrong?
 
sand_man said:
I find it a little weird when after 1 pro fight as a heavy weight he is the WBA inter-continental heavy weight champion. Boxing is slightly farcical in the 21st century.. or am I wrong?
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farcical indeed. Lots of narratives, fixed fights and money laundering im sure.

Devon Haney got the WBC lightweight belt by sending an email
 
sand_man said:
I find it a little weird when after 1 pro fight as a heavy weight he is the WBA inter-continental heavy weight champion. Boxing is slightly farcical in the 21st century.. or am I wrong?
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Honestly not sure how that works but I think if you are shifting divisions they take that into account. Perhaps it is because he defended the IBO belt 5 times he got preferential treatment when moving up to heavy. I did note Usyk was pushing for a top shot right after moving up as well and struggled to get on the cards vs the top 5. Seems to definitely also depend on who you know or perhaps how much you pay them.
 
Cius said:
Honestly not sure how that works but I think if you are shifting divisions they take that into account. Perhaps it is because he defended the IBO belt 5 times he got preferential treatment when moving up to heavy. I did note Usyk was pushing for a top shot right after moving up as well and struggled to get on the cards vs the top 5. Seems to definitely also depend on who you know or perhaps how much you pay them.
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This can happen depending on the assiociation, each alphabet group has their own rules that get more convoluted you look at them
Usyk became Joshuas mandatory after moving up to HW.
 
ShloshMalosh said:
This can happen depending on the assiociation, each alphabet group has their own rules that get more convoluted you look at them
Usyk became Joshuas mandatory after moving up to HW.
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Exactly, and yet still had a long wait. Reading the boxing manga Hajime no Ippo over the years there was one character that moved up several weight divisions and due to his status always moved directly up to challenge for the higher level belt. The boxer always wanted to just move up one level for each fight but the management team could not always organize that and forced him to defend the current title sometimes until a title fight could be secured. While it was a comic it was based on real boxing in Japan.
 
Cius said:
Exactly, and yet still had a long wait. Reading the boxing manga Hajime no Ippo over the years there was one character that moved up several weight divisions and due to his status always moved directly up to challenge for the higher level belt. The boxer always wanted to just move up one level for each fight but the management team could not always organize that and forced him to defend the current title sometimes until a title fight could be secured. While it was a comic it was based on real boxing in Japan.
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Sweet another Ippo fan! How do you like the manga? I really enjoy it!

Takamura's thing was more that he wanted to conqurer multiple weight classes for coach Kamogawa . 4, i think. And he didnt have lots of time to do it, so the rush was to find title fights, unify and move on. He talks about it alot.
He started at jr middleweight, became undisputed. Then MW, now currently super MW. I think cruiser weight will be his limit if we get there.

as for usyk... you are correct, he immediately received the right to challenge for the belt, but was always going to find his feet with at least one fight 1st. I dont think he wanted to do a 2nd but fought Chisora to 1. stay active, and 2. Chazz was a late replacement and he wanted to answer more questions. And also maybe some Eddie Hearn nonesense in there.

Him and Lomachenko are kind of exceptions because of their amature and olymic pedigree (both have +/- 400 amature fights each with loma only suffering one loss, and usyk 5 or so... thats insane).
I dont think viewers really appreciates what that means. But, there is no sense in them having fodder fights, they are olymic gold medalists. They were READY for title fights out the box.

Hence their "special" treatement... Thats the argument at least.
 
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