Britain 'facing energy shortfall'

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Britain is likely to face a shortfall in electricity generation within five to seven years, a report concludes.

Energy and environment consultancy firm Inenco says that the number of nuclear and coal plants coming out of service over the period makes shortages likely.



eskom is behind this,i know it!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7210625.stm
 
the difference is they'll probably start working on the solution now, not wait for it to become a crisis like our govt
 
I heard (damned if I remember from whom), that they were already building them, or had plans in place to start building them.
 
yeah but nukes plants take years and years to build and i dont think the population will be too keen on them
 
theratman said:
yeah but nukes plants take years and years to build and i dont think the population will be too keen on them
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Britain already has a number - and if I recall correctly, some seriously "bad" tech too.

Any new ones are bound to be an improvement.
 
they must get some french ones,the public recently protested against 100+ wind turbines being set up somewhere..i need to build a turbine in my backyard,thatd be sweet
 
Seriously rat-dude ... look at the log in your eye before you point at the splinter in someone else's eye.
compare apples with apples here now!

Tuesday, 11 July 2006, 21:28 GMT 22:28 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5166426.stm
The go-ahead has been given for a new wave of UK nuclear power stations.

Industry secretary Alistair Darling told MPs nuclear power needed to be part of the mix of energy supply for the UK over the next 40 years.
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# The UK has 19 reactors generating one fifth of its electricity and all but one of these will be retired by 2023. New-generation plants are expected to be on line about 2017.
# UK's first commercial nuclear power reactor began operating in 1956.
# It has full fuel cycle facilities including major reprocessing plants.
# Government commitment to the future of nuclear energy is firm due to energy security concerns as current reactors approach the end of operating life and the need to limit CO2 emissions.

UK electricity production is about 400 TWh gross, from 81 GWe capacity. Net imports are about 8 TWh. Annual consumption is 355 TWh, or about 5700 kWh/person.
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http://www.uic.com.au/nip84.htm
 
UK also has multiple energy suppliers - the mere fact that competition exists will ensure smooth supply.
 
Ricard said:
Seriously rat-dude ... look at the log in your eye before you point at the splinter in someone else's eye.
compare apples with apples here now!

Tuesday, 11 July 2006, 21:28 GMT 22:28 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5166426.stm


# The UK has 19 reactors generating one fifth of its electricity and all but one of these will be retired by 2023. New-generation plants are expected to be on line about 2017.
# UK's first commercial nuclear power reactor began operating in 1956.
# It has full fuel cycle facilities including major reprocessing plants.
# Government commitment to the future of nuclear energy is firm due to energy security concerns as current reactors approach the end of operating life and the need to limit CO2 emissions.


http://www.uic.com.au/nip84.htm
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...they only found out about it now...not last year
 
Guys - the fastest we ever built any power station from start of planning to it generating is about 10 years. We are following down your trail - just in time for the London Olympics in 2012. We haven't started a single one yet. So I'll be looking for load-shed tips ;)
 
Old coal plants, whose operating hours are limited under European legislation, have been running more than expected because of higher gas prices.
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If they really do have a shortage they can just disregard the EU legislation and run these 24/7, assuming they can't buy power from France.
 
The interconnector to France has a finite capacity - it already reaches that regularly, and always on the France -> UK direction.

As for disregarding the EU - they can do it, but the EU tends to levy massive fines (which alone in the EU the UK seems unwilling to risk - if it was France they just shrug and get on with it)
 
hunnymonster said:
Guys - the fastest we ever built any power station from start of planning to it generating is about 10 years. We are following down your trail - just in time for the London Olympics in 2012. We haven't started a single one yet. So I'll be looking for load-shed tips ;)
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Your govt is at least actioning on the information is has been provided. Ours just ignored it and hoped it would miraculously go away within 9 years. Your government will make a plan before then, because we all know British consumers dont accept shoddy service delivery and your govt is accountable for its actions.

I dont expect to see any power cuts in Britain because of this - in fact you will prob be delayed by 5 years whilst the green protestors argue the merots of another coal or nuke station - and you will still either get it done on time or make alternative arrangement (pun intended)
 
DJStealth said:
Your govt is at least actioning on the information is has been provided.
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No they've said they'll look favourably on private sector investment in the area.

DJStealth said:
Ours just ignored it and hoped it would miraculously go away within 9 years. Your government will make a plan before then, because we all know British consumers dont accept shoddy service delivery and your govt is accountable for its actions.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - there are two showers of idiots - they're both as 'good' as each other - ie. totally crap.

DJStealth said:
I dont expect to see any power cuts in Britain because of this
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Unless something dramatic happens to consumption it is a fact that it will happen - we've already come within 2% of eating our entire reserve twice now....[/quote]

DJStealth said:
and you will still either get it done on time or make alternative arrangement (pun intended)
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Trust me we do not have a good record on delivering anything on time, at least not since about 1959

The problem is the same world over (look at California) - clueless idiots in charge of critical infrastructure...
 
I lived there for quite some time - it is a stark contrast to SA and you have nothing to complain about - if you came here to compain about the UK government then I dont think you are likely to find many supporters or those who see any similarities between the two.

I was pretty impressed with the level of customer service and service delivery - never once had a problem in the years I lived there. I believe if the power supply is tooted to run out, things will be done to ensure it is not - even by the private sector. See, in SA our govt made it impossible for the private sector to invest in power, so it never happened. At least the UK govt is discussing it directly with private sector and is hopefully trying to make it a viable business opportunity.
 
lol @ hunnymonster.

Come try live in ZA for a bit.
While you are here, try do something simple:
Apply for a DSL Line, go book a driver's test, and get an ID Book and,

Complaining about the UK to a group of South Africans is like a gourmand complaining to an Ethiopian that his rump steak was a few degrees rarer than he likes it.
 
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