Budget Gaming Pc Build.

I do also have a 3rd gen I7 laptop with onboard 2GB 7660 Gpu, but the HDD in that is so painfully slow, like X3 rebirth is all jittery on it every time it loads, but when it does not load it was smooth. my origenal thought was to get a 7xxxrpm HDD for the laptop and up the ram to 8GB, but to get 7xxxRpm laptop drives is nearly impossible. SSD will not work for me as my steam library on it's own is about 100GB plus.
 
Pitbull said:
Micro-ATX. Well I suppose it depends on taste and the size of his box. But yea, I missed that one.
Most ATX boxes can take a Micro-ATX though. Unless he has a Micro-ATX box then my suggestion is useless anyway :D
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I am more the watch series and the odd movie and play a game when theres nothing better to do type of guy. For instance I have a Jtagged 360 full of games, but my daughter and wife use it lol. That's why I origenally thought of the Atflon series cards or the A8 series and maybe adding a R5 Gpu to the whole mix later on, but yeah hardware wise I am clueless these days.
 
Pitbull said:
Micro-ATX. Well I suppose it depends on taste and the size of his box. But yea, I missed that one.
Most ATX boxes can take a Micro-ATX though. Unless he has a Micro-ATX box then my suggestion is useless anyway :D
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I'm also of the older generation of gamers that prefers full ATX boards, but, that being said I think I use one of my expansion slots besides my GPU slot anyway. So, most of them are wasted in any case.

Not much point in paying the extra money for a full ATX board anymore, unless you need a better chipset for RAID or overclocking or something.
 
Ancalagon said:
I'm also of the older generation of gamers that prefers full ATX boards, but, that being said I think I use one of my expansion slots besides my GPU slot anyway. So, most of them are wasted in any case.

Not much point in paying the extra money for a full ATX board anymore, unless you need a better chipset for RAID or overclocking or something.
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I think I can still play most games on my core 2 due to me purchasing a Intel Pearl creek in 2006 and not a Jetway for instance. I never gave much thought to the more expensive boards as my whole focus was always on Gpu, but since 2006, lesson learned. I suppose Pitbull does have a point with the gaming board and I do agree that it would be the wiser choice, budget wise though the other board would be better.
 
saa044 said:
I am more the watch series and the odd movie and play a game when theres nothing better to do type of guy. For instance I have a Jtagged 360 full of games, but my daughter and wife use it lol. That's why I origenally thought of the Atflon series cards or the A8 series and maybe adding a R5 Gpu to the whole mix later on, but yeah hardware wise I am clueless these days.
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Ancalagon said:
I'm also of the older generation of gamers that prefers full ATX boards, but, that being said I think I use one of my expansion slots besides my GPU slot anyway. So, most of them are wasted in any case.

Not much point in paying the extra money for a full ATX board anymore, unless you need a better chipset for RAID or overclocking or something.
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Ancalagon is right then. Take the Mobo he suggested and the other parts and you're WELL within budget and it's all new. Or maybe use the savings and get a better CPU :o That Dual core I linked even if skylake... eish :D
 
Pitbull said:
Ancalagon is right then. Take the Mobo he suggested and the other parts and you're WELL within budget and it's all new. Or maybe use the savings and get a better CPU :o That Dual core I linked even if skylake... eish :D
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Lol. Cool thanks, I think Intel it is again.
 
saa044 said:
I think I can still play most games on my core 2 due to me purchasing a Intel Pearl creek in 2006 and not a Jetway for instance. I never gave much thought to the more expensive boards as my whole focus was always on Gpu, but since 2006, lesson learned. I suppose Pitbull does have a point with the gaming board and I do agree that it would be the wiser choice, budget wise though the other board would be better.
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Nope, cheap boards only matter stability wise, not performance. If you see a 2% performance difference, I'd be surprised. CPU, GPU and RAM will make much more of a performance impact than anything else. MSI is a large enough brand that I don't think stability will be an issue.
 
saa044 said:
Lol. Cool thanks, I think Intel it is again.
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Personally not a big fan of AMD. I tried to find a DDR4 board but eish.

Ponder should be giving you some options later as well I know he's probably crunching a few numbers somewhere now. But I normally follow his advice ;)
 
I don't know if AMD have any DDR4 compatible chipsets yet?

From the benchmarks I've seen, unfortunately AMD is very far behind Intel in both performance and power consumption. So, probably the only time I'd recommend AMD is if you needed the powerful onboard GPU that is part of the APU. If you don't, no point. At least, not until Zen arrives.
 
Pitbull said:
Personally not a big fan of AMD. I tried to find a DDR4 board but eish.

Ponder should be giving you some options later as well I know he's probably crunching a few numbers somewhere now. But I normally follow his advice ;)
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Cool thanks, looking forward to ponder's post. @Ancalagon regarding the board, I think you are right, before the Intel in 2006 everything was always Amd, why I was unsure about AMD in the first place. The R7 part of the APU is what mainly caught my attention.
 
I can say budget wise at this current stage the A8 bundle and FX bundle has my attention. Both can do Battlefield 4 on ultra settings and both run Gta V. Looks very interesting for a sub R3xxx under R4000 system. But yeah obviously not my final decision and as always open to suggestions.
 
saa044 said:
I can say budget wise at this current stage the A8 bundle and FX bundle has my attention. Both can do Battlefield 4 on ultra settings and both run Gta V. Looks very interesting for a sub R3xxx under R4000 system. But yeah obviously not my final decision and as always open to suggestions.
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You have the budget and know what you're happy with. I'm sure as noted previously @ponder will rock in here, have a couple of good deals and will give you a scope of different things you might be happy with. If he hasn't forgotten about this thread. I saw him stick his paws in here earlier.
 
Just bear in mind that the R7 GPU in any AMD APU is going to be much slower than a discrete (ie separate) R7 GPU. The reason for this is memory bandwidth.

I would not expect an AMD APU on its own to be capable of running Battlefield 4 on ultra without help from a discrete GPU.
 
Pitbull said:
You have the budget and know what you're happy with. I'm sure as noted previously @ponder will rock in here, have a couple of good deals and will give you a scope of different things you might be happy with. If he hasn't forgotten about this thread. I saw him stick his paws in here earlier.
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Lol cool, luckily not in a huge rush, so am curious to see what ponder suggests.
 
Ancalagon said:
Just bear in mind that the R7 GPU in any AMD APU is going to be much slower than a discrete (ie separate) R7 GPU. The reason for this is memory bandwidth.

I would not expect an AMD APU on its own to be capable of running Battlefield 4 on ultra without help from a discrete GPU.
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Yeah agree with you, did not expect the same also. But it's a comfortable start that allows for some breathing room while the funds grow for the gpu.
 
Pitbull said:
You have the budget and know what you're happy with. I'm sure as noted previously @ponder will rock in here, have a couple of good deals and will give you a scope of different things you might be happy with. If he hasn't forgotten about this thread. I saw him stick his paws in here earlier.
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R5k is asking for for miracles, very hard to do. I'd suggest getting the R3300 i5+MB+8GB bundle from PotterH if he still has some left and saving another month or two for a lekka GPU. This will yield a very decent system without any corners being cut.
 
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