Building under construction collapses in George

leon.davibe said:
yea my theory is you would expect to see a mushroom head on the pillar as that is wher it is suppose to be strongest as that is where all the weight gets transferred to pillar
it looks to clean for me

though as slab after slab tear over over it could be broken down
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You'd expect it to look like a T with rebar at right angles at the top of the column. There should have been quite heavy top and bottom reinforcement tying the slab to the column, but standing straight up and down like a matchstick with no debris around it, then to me that is linked to the failure.
 
Spizz said:
Interesting. As I mentioned in an earlier post I doubts about the props.

Also the more I see the photo of that column and the collapsed slabs some distance away from it, the more I think there was nowhere near enough reinforcement to tie it into the slab. I don't see any of it in the pic and there should have been quite heavy mats around the columns, so most likely design. Having said that, any civil engineer with at least a couple of years site experience should know what will work and what won't just be looking at it. That again comes down to inexperience or incompetence.
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Missed one: complacency.
 
There were people from a training college on site too, from what i have heard
so that complicates things a bit
 
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leon.davibe said:
There were people from a training college on site too, from what i have heard
so that complicates things a bit
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That should not complicate anything in a proper workplace, no one should ever be in there and not accounted for, problem with these things is that rules are made optional, it always works out well until there is a problem, as we can see here.

Being able to account for everyone on site is one of the most basic requirements for the site manager.
 
TheChamp said:
That should not complicate anything in a proper workplace, no one should ever be in there and not accounted for, problem with these things is that rules are made optional, it always works out well until there is a problem, as we can see here.

Being able to account for everyone on site is one of the most basic requirements for the site manager.
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Aren't there always those "Please report to Site Manager" signs posted about
 
TheChamp said:
That should not complicate anything in a proper workplace, no one should ever be in there and not accounted for, problem with these things is that rules are made optional, it always works out well until there is a problem, as we can see here.

Being able to account for everyone on site is one of the most basic requirements for the site manager.
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yea it is , those that were aware of who is on site were probably in the building
and the report to site office is more for visitors

sub contractors go as they please
they need to do a certain portion at a certain stage
come in do it get out

i mean think about any work place if the building collapses just after you left will you know who all was in the office that day and their precise location to aid rescue

we simply don't run our days for a worst case scenario

edit yes when something horrible like this happens we think damn we should do better
hindsight is 20/20 though

plus if we have to run our world to that standard it jacks up the cost
which nobody wants to pay
 
TheChamp said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1788847536809079146
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90% foreign nationals, that construction site must have been up to sht.
I've seen some very competent Zim builders but that's small time house renovation teams, for a professional builder to have such a large contingent of foreigners suggests many if not most of the team had no locally certified qualifications or experience.
 
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