racer
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Their website hasn't worked properly since the last election, how many years is that now? I can't believe that anyone with a functioning brain could even given this nonsense a second thought,,,,
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Their website hasn't worked properly since the last election, how many years is that now? I can't believe that anyone with a functioning brain could even given this nonsense a second thought,,,,
I would stay with the Democratic Alliance within the Cape to have them progress higher through national and provincial government - they do not necessarily have to win a general election either. Have them at-least provide healthy competition while being awarded more seats in parliament.
Key to a healthy democracy is not to divide South Africa as the CAPE Party would like but rather to unite the country with diverse leadership. A strong multi-cultural local and provincial government across South Africa will create healthy political climate, while increasing service delivery. Unhealthy practices arise when one party is given too much power.
Key to a healthy democracy is not to divide South Africa as the CAPE Party would like but rather to unite the country with diverse leadership. A strong multi-cultural local and provincial government across South Africa will create healthy political climate, while increasing service delivery. Unhealthy practices arise when one party is given too much power.
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Fudzy
Guest
Please clarify...
Source of of this statement?
I'm assuming you're referring to us as people who live in the Western Cape, not us as in the country?
genetic
Honorary Master
He probably believes that the WC provides for the whole country. It's actually Gauteng that produces almost 40% of the entire countries' GDP.
WC would become bankrupt if they pulled out of SA. It would be bad and backwards for the country anyway.
I'm sure there's only 2% of the WC that would want to secede. Good luck to them!
Phenom
This above is what your grand party says.
Now let's do a quick calculation:
Western Cape GDP: R225.8 bilion / 7 = $32.35 billion
32.25 / 5278585 (population) = $6110.94 per capita
$6110.94 per capita, that is $4000 below the natinal average. Now income per capita is lower than GDP per capita because the average person in South Africa sure as hell makes less than R70000 a year so where the fsck does the Cape Party come up with this "top 10 richest income per capita countries" if the cape became independant? And please don't add the Northern Cape, that will just drag the average down more.
This above is what your grand party says.
Now let's do a quick calculation:
Western Cape GDP: R225.8 bilion / 7 = $32.35 billion
32.25 / 5278585 (population) = $6110.94 per capita
$6110.94 per capita, that is $4000 below the natinal average. Now income per capita is lower than GDP per capita because the average person in South Africa sure as hell makes less than R70000 a year so where the fsck does the Cape Party come up with this "top 10 richest income per capita countries" if the cape became independant? And please don't add the Northern Cape, that will just drag the average down more.
I think they do. Investment input would be huge (it’s not trip-over-your-feet, corrupt Africa). They have harbours and a naval tradition + an extensive coastline. The East coast would be sympathetic, KZN has some seriously big harbours and there is no love lost between the IFP and the ANC. They have power (Koeburg), good governance and would have an enhanced work ethic away from entitled SA. It can do it but I hope they don’t. It may be possible for the Cape to secede but it would leave the rest of SA to go down the plughole of crime, corruption and incompetence. I hope they don’t take the attitude of ”Bugger you Jack, I’m all right” removing the glimmer of hope and plunging the rest of the country into the ‘Heart of Darkness’. My point is that they could, but I sincerely hope they don’t.
Kosmik
Honorary Master
Lol, you seriously think the SA Economy or citizens will let the WC take the Koeberg powerstation if they secede?
Naive.
Naive.
Mila
Honorary Master
Only take tax payer.
THe would be my way
// flame suit
Seriously
That is a good question.
genetic
Honorary Master
Secession will hurt business. 80% of our clients are Johannesburg based, and 95% of the WC will laugh at the idea of the WC becoming independent.
Go to Orania if you want your own independent state.
Go to Orania if you want your own independent state.
What economy? The ever declining one? What citizens? Are you counting the blood-crazed, machete wielding masses as citizens? Who’s going to stop them? SA? Bwahahahaha.
The State President can technically deploy SA troops to stop secession but this (IMO) risks division along racial lines. Other elements also need to be factored into the potential for civil war.
#1 There are strong links between WC and SA.
#2 Non-blacks overwhelming hold any positions in logistics involving skill. The mechanised and technical elements of the SANDF will grind to a halt rapidly. Any war effort will depend, to a great extent, on logistics, airpower and technical know-how. Non-blacks overwhelmingly, fill these positions. And if there is no competent logistics…
#3 A SANDF where the embittered ‘whites’ have been passed over for promotion etc. in spite of years of loyalty (AA for MK & APLA cadres), is not going to be loyal. Besides, their ‘reward’ will be continued discrimination. A zero sum equation.
#4 There will be tremendous negative pressure on serving non-blacks from friends and relatives.
#5 International mercenaries (if necessary) would be relatively easy to recruit. Governments may deplore the civil war but, because the situation is so bad, will not make more than a token show of stopping recruitment.
#6 There will be many SA volunteers. These are not the paunchy, brandy & coke swilling indulgers of right-wing rhetoric over the braai. However repugnant their ideology is considered, many of the younger bunch were very good soldiers (the extreme right wing may offer their combat services for free).
Easy peasy.
genetic
Honorary Master
This is what that CAPE party really is.
http://ctglobalist.za.org/2009/04/cape-independence-before-the-second-coming-2/
Kosmik
Honorary Master
General: Do you want power for your big screen TV, hot water, Cellphones etc
Grunt: YES GENERAL
General: Here's a gun, go fetch.
I'm sure there's only 1.8944e-7% of the WC that would want to secede. Good luck to them!
Fixed using the stats above (population of 5278585 - not fact checked).
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Fudzy
Guest
Why doesn't the C.A.P.E start with a small access controlled suburb and work it's way outwards? That way the proof of concept will be proven without rubbing an entire country up the wrong way.
What happens to the people that dont fit the Cape Party's "culture"?
Richards Bay harbour is HUGE and if they chose to develop that it would dwarf Durban – it has the potential to be the biggest harbour in the world.
There argument to seperate also include the right not to associate or intergarte with other cultures.
But arent colourds the majority in the WC?
Anyway "majority of its culture" seems too open ended which could be abused to include or exlude people.
You’re being facetious. The WC would export, constantly renewable, intellectual product. They have reasonable uni’s and would have the freedom to determine academic standards and discipline. SA **used** to be respected intellectually. They have the wherewithal to do extensive research on alternative energy (Karoo – solar/coastline – tidal/Koeberg - nuclear). They can prevent water supply pollution and have the sea as a potential water source. They can do marine and coastal environmental research. Fish farming (sea) for protean. Etc. Etc.
Wine is far from being the only export.