Cell C boosting network performance and coverage

Thanks. Sold.

My Brother has been with cell c for the past 3 weeks because of their great prices. He travels in and around the greater JHB area and says he very seldom has 3G, only edge. Very disapointing.

Please Cell C, sort out your 3G and HSDPA coverage! I was going to move over myself from MTN but now i'm not so sure...
 
My Brother has been with cell c for the past 3 weeks because of their great prices. He travels in and around the greater JHB area and says he very seldom has 3G, only edge. Very disapointing.

Please Cell C, sort out your 3G and HSDPA coverage! I was going to move over myself from MTN but now i'm not so sure...

strange, I also travel around Jo'burg a lot and I very seldom have problems
 
I call marketing BS, MTN alone spent something like R7bn in 2009 and 2010 to beef up its network for WC 2010, cell C only spent half that on its entire "4Gs" rollout.....nice try AKC
 
That is all I have been asking for from Cell C! Good network coverage. I really hope that by next year significant progress would have been made.

Good luck Alan and Cell C!
 
My Brother has been with cell c for the past 3 weeks because of their great prices. He travels in and around the greater JHB area and says he very seldom has 3G, only edge. Very disapointing.

strange, I also travel around Jo'burg a lot and I very seldom have problems

Could it be that different handsets have different criteria for selecting when to fall over to EDGE from 3G? The same question could be asked then for switching back to 3G when coverage is "adequate" again?
I just keep my phone on 3G only and have not come across a no coverage spot around the Peninsula yet.
 
just did a side by side speed test comparison at the office in CPT
Cell C:
Download: 1.67 Mbps
Upload: 0.21 Mbps

vodacom
Download: 3.16
upload 1.44

so vodacom is faster but to be honest, i don't notice the difference on my phone

i switch to cell C this week b/c VC reception/speed were getting worse by the day
so far no issues with Cell C
 
This may not be such good news .. Vodacom insists that in order to maintain a 'superiour network' prices have to double at least. Cell-C is going to have to price itself out of the market like Vodacom in order to survive.
 
This may not be such good news .. Vodacom insists that in order to maintain a 'superiour network' prices have to double at least. Cell-C is going to have to price itself out of the market like Vodacom in order to survive.

not that i would believe whatever excuse Vodacom uses to justify their prices.
but lets face it, in a few years time, phones will be likely to use a much wider range of technologies to go online. iOS 6 already has features that allow for better switching between 3g and wifi. Especially in cities, the quality of the network won't rely much on 3G in the future.
I understand that cell phone operators are reluctant to invest much given that over time, they'll become less relevant.
 
Woo Hoo go Cell C, 3G coverage awesome, oh wait that 5 year old tech, when you rolling out LTE? :p
 
I call marketing BS, MTN alone spent something like R7bn in 2009 and 2010 to beef up its network for WC 2010, cell C only spent half that on its entire "4Gs" rollout.....nice try AKC

HSPA 900 is a lot cheaper to deploy than traditional 3G. The Cells are much bigger, meaning less base stations, greater coverage, greater indoor penetration, etc. How do you know how much Cell C spent? They sold all their towers to American Tower Corp, and are leasing it back from them. This provided them with a huge capital injection in the billions. Cell C is also privately owned (not listed) and received capital injections from their shareholders.

strange, I also travel around Jo'burg a lot and I very seldom have problems

I also have very few problems with Cell C. When I switched from MTN to Cell C, I was a bit concerned that my 3G coverage would not be so great. But so far so good.

I remember reading a while back that CellC had sold it's infrastructure to a 3rd party? Was I imagining it? Surely this is a way of ensuring the network is maintained according to SLA's etc and rollout commitments?

Yes, it was sold to American Tower Corp, and they are leasing it back from them with SLA's in place.

This may not be such good news .. Vodacom insists that in order to maintain a 'superiour network' prices have to double at least. Cell-C is going to have to price itself out of the market like Vodacom in order to survive.

I think Cell C's business model going forward is to do high-volumes at low margins, rather than the traditional model adopted by MTN and Vodacom of low usage, high margin. I think AKC has hit the nail on the head with this business model, as it is very successful and sustainable in the first world. People just want to communicate, when they want to, when they need to, without worrying about costs. Low cost price plans help to achieve this. Once people stop worrying about the costs, and that they might get fleeced by their network operator, once they start trusting them, they will start to use way more, without even thinking about the costs. You've got to win the consumers trust first, and I think this is where AKC will kill Vodacom and MTN.

Think about it. Any new deal, package, promo, contract, etc from Vodacom and MTN leaves you ALWAYS thinking:
- what's the catch?
- what are they not telling me?
- how much does this REALLY cost?
- will they be able to screw me over?

Truth is Vodacom and MTN are always trying to screw you over with their smoke and mirrors approach. AKC is on to a whole NEW ball game, and I believe him when he says that someone is going to hurt, and that he has only JUST started throwing jabs.
 
AKC is on to a whole NEW ball game, and I believe him when he says that someone is going to hurt, and that he has only JUST started throwing jabs.

Well,so be it, and if the hurting is inflicted on the 2 behemoths all the better.:D
 
HSPA 900 is a lot cheaper to deploy than traditional 3G. The Cells are much bigger, meaning less base stations, greater coverage, greater indoor penetration, etc. How do you know how much Cell C spent? They sold all their towers to American Tower Corp, and are leasing it back from them. This provided them with a huge capital injection in the billions. Cell C is also privately owned (not listed) and received capital injections from their shareholders.

This hype about HSPA 900 is a bit much now, the real world dense urban results on lower frequency bands is not all its cracked out to be, especially in WCDMA. Go and ask how many infill sites they are having to push in? Cell breathing is a bigger issue at 900, power is a limited resource and pushing out your cell boarders doesnt help this at all.



Think about it. Any new deal, package, promo, contract, etc from Vodacom and MTN leaves you ALWAYS thinking:
- what's the catch?
- what are they not telling me?
- how much does this REALLY cost?
- will they be able to screw me over?

Truth is Vodacom and MTN are always trying to screw you over with their smoke and mirrors approach. AKC is on to a whole NEW ball game, and I believe him when he says that someone is going to hurt, and that he has only JUST started throwing jabs.

This I will agree with, however in terms of smoke and mirrors I do think that AKC is potentially the king at this.
 
Interesting. :wtf:

Even after a complaint to ICASA my problems in Middelburg Mpumalanga is still not fixed. Every single call to them I have to re-explain myself. Asking them to look at previous reference numbers has no effect.

1.Although I can't complain about the quality of the network and internet speeds, I can without a doubt rate their customer service channels a 0/10 every time. (Email, SMS, callcentre, Twitter, Facebook, Hellopeter).
2.Blackberry Internet Service (BIS) and internet doesn't function on their EDGE network. So slow and non responsive. Especially over weekends.
3. It's been two months and I am still waiting for feedback what the problem actually still is.

*GSM and EDGE speeds are now a thing of the past, customers don't want that anymore.
*CellC should check their up and downtime for their 3G towers in Middelburg Mp as it's more down than up. And explaining that to the callcentre is a horrid task.

Justsaying: :erm:
MTN's 3G and BIS wasn't down one time for the month of July 2012. I didn't notice it.
Vodacom does have 3G and BIS coverage, BIS not down in July 2012, but their 3G speeds doesn't exceed 384 adsl line speeds.
 
Porting or not porting still stays an individual decision. The Prepaid promo that CellC had on their data network for 60GB for 12 months allowing 5GB per month @ R1999 once off was my first encounter with CellC. It worked out great and the speeds were exceeding my expectations, but I never went over 8Mbps (I even got coverage when roaming on VC network - slower speeds obviously). A few weeks ago I ported my whole household from VC to CellC. Speed tests on MyBB forum on the data side exceeds 12Mbps downlink and more than 2Mbps uplink (on contract 2GB @ R99). The only downside I noticed so far is that the call handover from one tower to the next is not as smooth yet as what I had from VC. Otherwise I am very happy and will stick patiently with them while they are upgrading their network as they are saving us huge amounts of money monthly. This after being a VC customer since 1998 on the same number.
 
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I've been testing their coverage with a prepaid sim for a few months now and it's still not great. I would love to port over to them, but coverage is the single most important factor for me.
 
This I will agree with, however in terms of smoke and mirrors I do think that AKC is potentially the king at this.

He is (was?) definitely the king, but that's what makes all of this so interesting. There's nobody out there more qualified them him to break the status quo, that he HIMSELF is responsible for.
 
strange, I also travel around Jo'burg a lot and I very seldom have problems

My Bro has an iPhone 4, Never had a problem on Vodacom. What phone are you using?
I really hope it's just a software issue or limited to his phone...I want Cell C to knock the others flat on their asses :P
 
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