Cellular providers upbeat about iPhone

Blah blah!* Let's talk about it in Q2 of 2008! :D
Speculation is a waste of time, IMHO...

*no disrespect intended :)
 
Trafeye said:
I cannot see the iPhone selling well in SA. The market here cares about compatibility and that is something Apple haven't got in this business. Just about everybody here uses Microsoft products - so I see a future for smart phones based on MS Mobile products here - like those from HTC. A smart phone that cannot handle MS Office products is too limited - no matter the looks and hype. Maybe MS compatibility will never be a requirement for the crowd into iTunes. If it is about music and video only then fine - but with the convergance of devices those in the market for a $500 device will want more than songs and video.
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A lot of businesses, governments and consumers are moving away from Microsoft proprietary solutions to open formats for obvious reasons. The future is not Microsoft lock-in, as much as this annoys MS.

When I first watched the keynote I was very excited about the iPhone but now the dust has settled a bit I am more cautious than optimistic. The choice not to allow 3rd party apps that haven't been certified by Apple and/or Cingular and the choice to have it locked to one provider makes the future of this phone uncertain.

I assume that it is a cost issue that forced Apple into this direction but I hope we can buy there iPhone range in-store like we can their iPod range sooner rather then later.
 
icyrus said:
A lot of businesses, governments and consumers are moving away from Microsoft proprietary solutions to open formats for obvious reasons. The future is not Microsoft lock-in, as much as this annoys MS.
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:D :D

Good, if it annoys them, I'm for it!

Had too much annoyances from Windoze, now it's payback time! :D
 
BobJones said:
There is nil chance that you will see anything other than Apple branding or OS X on the iphone. Just not gonna happen.
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Well if say Vodafone has the numbers in the UK, then Vodafone holds some bargaining power to have some Vodafone Live type software made available on the phone.
 
Not going to happen. At all.
They haven't even bothered to mention which processor the iphone uses.
There are no "intel inside" logos on macs either.
 
BobJones said:
Not going to happen. At all.
They haven't even bothered to mention which processor the iphone uses.
There are no "intel inside" logos on macs either.
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Apple had a choice re the Intel Inside logo as Intel pays computer makers for that right. So if you are using that as your basis you are mistaken.

As for the chip issue, let's see how big a chipmaker it is that didn't allow their name to be in the public domain.

So unless you are part of the Apple decision making process, your "Not going to happen" comment is opinion and not fact.
 
Syndyre said:
Is it true it has an embedded sim?
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Apparently, yes.
Jongi said:
Apple had a choice re the Intel Inside logo as Intel pays computer makers for that right. So if you are using that as your basis you are mistaken.

As for the chip issue, let's see how big a chipmaker it is that didn't allow their name to be in the public domain.

So unless you are part of the Apple decision making process, your "Not going to happen" comment is opinion and not fact.
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You don't have to be part of the Apple decision making process to see how they are positioning their brand.
There isn't a single Apple product that I know of that is not prominently and exclusively branded Apple. They seldom if ever acknowledge their suppliers with any fanfare, and are known to be vicious about contract awards. When Samsung leaked product info earlier this year Apple promptly dropped them as memory chip suppliers for ipods.
You're not going to see any ads for the Apple iPhone, powered by an ARM processor, and serviced by Cingular. Just ones for the Apple iPhone - fullstop.
Sharing the limelight is just not in the DNA. You may be buying a Paramount movie, but ur share going to know that you got it from the Apple iTunes Store.
For some reason they project a lot of influence - like earlier this year when there was the scandal about working conditions in the ipod factory in China, Apple dictated changes to the working conditions of everybody there - despite the fact that they were only using 15% capacity of a 300,000 worker plant.

BTW Apple still has'nt mentioned which Intel chip is powering the AppleTV.

There's a pattern of behaviour here - and I see no motivation for them to change.
 
I was pretty shocked when I saw that posted here the first time.
Since the phone is network locked I'm not sure why they would hard wire the SIM.
When you look at the profile shot on the apple site, what is the little black slot like thingy on the top left side?

Edit: I've just watched the keynote.. and the iPhone is so much more than the descriptions can put across. There is absolutely no comparison, even the new Nokias with similar specs are nowhere close.
There is a slot for the SIM at the top of the phone... so I think that the story about a hard wired SIM is busted. There is a volume slider on the left, speaker and mic at the bottom (pretty novel arrangement - they must have some funky ways of preventing feedback squeal).
 
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Wide screen iPod

I don't like propagating rumours, but we don't have a choice now that the juicy iPhone has finally been released.

Rumour has it that Apple will release a new wide screen iPod in exactly the same format as the iPhone but without the GSM capabilities. This makes even more sense than the previous one about the iPhone itself.

My guess is probably even a 100GB iPod, with all the nice features. See our lengthy discussions on the MyADSL blog.
 
From what I've been able to dig up, the iPhone is based on a Samsung chipset....

But as was stated previously, apple almost NEVER acknowledge their suppliers. I just think that while the iPhone may be awesome, the outright price is going to be the deciding factor in whether it catches on or not, and 8Gb of storage is not going to cut it by the time its launched here.... it'll need more to stand out.
 
bwana said:
I havent seen any concrete evidence of that but if anyone has anything then I'd love to have a gander.
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I remember reading somewhere, don't have a link now though, that they were likely to network-lock the OS itself so it wouldn't be possible to easily unlock it as with other phones. I also don't like the fact you can't change the battery but that's just me.
 
ToxicBunny said:
From what I've been able to dig up, the iPhone is based on a Samsung chipset....

But as was stated previously, apple almost NEVER acknowledge their suppliers. I just think that while the iPhone may be awesome, the outright price is going to be the deciding factor in whether it catches on or not, and 8Gb of storage is not going to cut it by the time its launched here.... it'll need more to stand out.
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A network unlocked version of the 8 GB iPhone is currently number one in the German Amazon store bestseller list (pre-orders) despite a EUR1,000 price tag.
Thats nearly R9,400.
If thats anything to go by, there is huge demand for this item. I don't know if the amazon listing is a mistake or not, but Apple would be dumb not to re-look at their EU expansion plans if this is the type of response they are getting.
Seems strange that the Phone is available on amazon when it looked like it was only going to be available thru Apple and the Cell Network Partners.
 
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