Cern scientist: 'Physics built by men - not by invitation'

Are you trying to say that he's claiming the inventions made by men in the past as his or as accomplishments of all men or even all male scientists?

Because what he's actually saying is that physics was created by people who were men.

There are two separate issues and opinions here, you can look at the individually. First is the
"physics was invented and built by men, it's not by invitation".

statement. It's true, but a very large reason was the exclusion of women from higher education and the sciences.
The problem is that he's trying to fold that into the second part:

He produced a series of graphs which, he claimed, showed that women were hired over men whose research was cited more by other scientists in their publications, which is an indication of higher quality.

He also presented data that he claimed showed that male and female researchers were equally cited at the start of their careers but men scored progressively better as their careers progressed.

Now that may also be true. It may be something lost in translation, or taken out of context (since we don't have the entire lecture), but the two ideas don't follow.
 
I see an academic paper, I first check the title, then the abstract and then the publisher, after which you go through the rest of the paper.
I really don't care about the author unless that author is famous in their field.
Gender traitor! First check if there's a girls girl's name in the list of authors. Reading, never mind citing, female work is a stab in the back of all your white, cisgender, brothers. Google the male names too, because sometimes blacks have white sounding names.
 
Nah, he's a physicist. He's probably just arrogant as ****. I know, I've been there.

LOL on that we can agree. Of all the scientists I've interacted with over the years, physicists have by far been the most arrogant SOBs. :ROFL:

Understandable though, physics separates the wheat from the chaff. :cool::p
 
LMAO A woman just won the Nobel Prize in Physics! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Tyrannosaurus REKT!!!!
 
LOL on that we can agree. Of all the scientists I've interacted with over the years, physicists have by far been the most arrogant SOBs. :ROFL:

Understandable though, physics separates the wheat from the chaff. :cool::p

True that.

I will put my hand up and say first-year physics would have been one of the very few first-year modules that I would have failed if I had taken it, even if I put in a 150% effort. Abstract as hell!
 
True that.

I will put my hand up and say first-year physics would have been one of the very few first-year modules that I would have failed if I had taken in, even if I put in a 150% effort. Abstract as hell!
First year physics is easy.
It starts getting tougher in 2nd year when you hit quantum...
 
LMAO A woman just won the Nobel Prize in Physics! :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Tyrannosaurus REKT!!!!

Oh god, they infected Knyro too.

It wasn't just a woman.


BREAKING NEWS The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has decided to award the #NobelPrize in Physics 2018 “for groundbreaking inventions in the field of laser physics” with one half to Arthur Ashkin and the other half jointly to Gérard Mourou and Donna Strickland.
 
First year physics is easy.
It starts getting tougher in 2nd year when you hit quantum...

Statistical mechanics was the hardest undergrad module in my experience, followed by solid state physics.
 
There are two separate issues and opinions here, you can look at the individually. First is the


statement. It's true, but a very large reason was the exclusion of women from higher education and the sciences.

No, the assumption is that that is a very large reason for it. The fact that after literally decades of equality people are still trying to encourage middle class women with access to any field they choose, to choose STEM, kind of suggests that a lack of discrimination in the past wouldn't have made that much difference. Fewer women are willing or able to excel in STEM than men.

The quite rare, almost autistic, obsessive traits that lead to genius is more prevelant amongst the male gender.


The problem is that he's trying to fold that into the second part:



Now that may also be true. It may be something lost in translation, or taken out of context (since we don't have the entire lecture), but the two ideas don't follow.

They do follow. His argument is that women are being favoured because of perceived discrimination that can actually be explained by gender traits.
 
The More Gender Equality, the Fewer Women in STEM

Though their numbers are growing, only 27 percent of all students taking the AP Computer Science exam in the United States are female. The gender gap only grows worse from there: Just 18 percent of American computer-science college degrees go to women. This is in the United States, where many college men proudly describe themselves as “male feminists” and girls are taught they can be anything they want to be.

Meanwhile, in Algeria, 41 percent of college graduates in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and math—or “STEM,” as it’s known—are female. There, employment discrimination against women is rife and women are often pressured to make amends with their abusive husbands.

According to a report I covered a few years ago, Jordan, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates were the only three countries in which boys are significantly less likely to feel comfortable working on math problems than girls are. In all of the other nations surveyed, girls were more likely to say they feel “helpless while performing a math problem.”

So what explains the tendency for nations that have traditionally less gender equality to have more women in science and technology than their gender-progressive counterparts do?

According to a new paper published in Psychological Science by the psychologists Gijsbert Stoet, at Leeds Beckett University, and David Geary, at the University of Missouri, it could have to do with the fact that women in countries with higher gender inequality are simply seeking the clearest possible path to financial freedom. And often, that path leads through STEM professions.

The issue doesn’t appear to be girls’ aptitude for STEM professions. In looking at test scores across 67 countries and regions, Stoet and Geary found that girls performed about as well or better than boys did on science in most countries, and in almost all countries, girls would have been capable of college-level science and math classes if they had enrolled in them.

But when it comes to their relative strengths, in almost all the countries—all except Romania and Lebanon—boys’ best subject was science, and girls’ was reading. (That is, even if an average girl was as good as an average boy at science, she was still likely to be even better at reading.) Across all countries, 24 percent of girls had science as their best subject, 25 percent of girls’ strength was math, and 51 percent excelled in reading. For boys, the percentages were 38 for science, 42 for math, and 20 for reading. And the more gender-equal the country, as measured by the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index, the larger this gap between boys and girls in having science as their best subject. (The most gender-equal countries are the typical snowy utopias you hear about, like Sweden, Finland, and Iceland. Turkey and the United Arab Emirates rank among the least equal, according to the Global Gender Gap Index.)
 
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