Cheaper Internet access is coming soon

iDDQDm0de said:
Aren't they provisioning enough bandwidth to be able to broadcast HD? I smell a rat.
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They don't use their IP network for broadcasts. They use their ATM network for that and they already have the capacity available on there and even if they don't there is capacity in reserve so a simple software config will do the job.
 
Garyvdh said:
I want to make an appeal to you guys not to post your negativity anymore, but rather to use your posts to demand change. I am fearful that all of the IBIWISI posts and "This is South Africa" and "it will never happen" are all going to hijack our lower prices!

The operators will turn around and use your negativity to justify their pricing structures.

Instead of posting "things will never change"... from now on I want you to post "we demand change".

Instead of posting "prices will not come down" ... post "We demand that prices come down"

There is no more excuse for poor service or inflated prices. If being negative makes you satisfied, then you deserve the high prices.

I for one am sick of them and I demand lower prices. Seacom is in a position to give that to us... no more excuses!!!

If you agree, then please quote this entire post!
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Hallo Julius...
 
ponder said:
They don't use their IP network for broadcasts. They use their ATM network for that and they already have the capacity available on there and even if they don't there is capacity in reserve so a simple software config will do the job.
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Sigh...

Can a mod please change the thread title to "Telkom is the bomb and we like paying high prices"?
 
I sure hope this thread isn't dying like all other attempts to talk sense into ISPs heads. I am sure all of you read the article about iBurst? Seems like they are going to have a hard time ahead of them seeing as they think their customers are all born in caves.
 
iDDQDm0de said:
I sure hope this thread isn't dying like all other attempts to talk sense into ISPs heads. I am sure all of you read the article about iBurst? Seems like they are going to have a hard time ahead of them seeing as they think their customers are all born in caves.
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I don't intend to let it die. Don't worry. I don't let my threads die. I fully expect competitive ISPs to bring us competitive prices. It may not be a landslide, but by December I expect a whole different scenario. :)

Some people on this board are going to be eating their words! ;) .. and it won't be me.
 
Garyvdh said:
I don't intend to let it die. Don't worry. I don't let my threads die. I fully expect competitive ISPs to bring us competitive prices. It may not be a landslide, but by December I expect a whole different scenario. :)

Some people on this board are going to be eating their words! ;) .. and it won't be me.
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Haha at least you're positive, most of the ISP's aren't in the end. :( And well, to be honest we'd probably be better off listening to them, they are the ones who will be implementing this and really know what's happening.

But we'll still see something regardless.
 
Wimbo said:
If they did buy capacity, they'd buy an STM-64 at least - the price per Mbps is much lower.

They have plenty of bandwidth on SAT-3 - a significant slice of 120 Gbps, ~= 12 x STM-64. They also have capacity on two other new cables to come.
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Actually, I don't think that Telkom could currently afford to buy an STM-64. At SEACOM's published prices, they would need to invest more than they have in the other two cables you mention. Now that they don't have a Vodacom cash cow, I think you'll find them playing at a slightly lower tier in the international market.

As for how much of SAT-3 they have, it's not much more than 10%, if that, given the size of the consortium. That makes about one STM-64.
 
ads said:
Actually, I don't think that Telkom could currently afford to buy an STM-64.
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Where do you get this from?

Ignoring the truckloads of cash they just got from Vodafone, even without Vodacom's revenues, Telkom makes enough profit in one year that they could buy the whole of Seacom (lock+stock+cable+kitchen sink), and would still have plenty of change left over.
 
ads said:
Actually, I don't think that Telkom could currently afford to buy an STM-64. At SEACOM's published prices, they would need to invest more than they have in the other two cables you mention. Now that they don't have a Vodacom cash cow, I think you'll find them playing at a slightly lower tier in the international market.

As for how much of SAT-3 they have, it's not much more than 10%, if that, given the size of the consortium. That makes about one STM-64.
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They just raked in north of R22 billion for their 15% stake in Vodacom. They can pretty much afford to do whatever they like.
 
Gatecrasher said:
They just raked in north of R22 billion for their 15% stake in Vodacom.
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.. and payed out all but R10 billion to their shareholders last month. They need the R10 billion to built the telkom mobile network and they are currently laying more fibre. So no, i dont think they can afford to do "pretty much whatever they like".
 
Garyvdh said:
I want to make an appeal to you guys not to post your negativity anymore, but rather to use your posts to demand change. I am fearful that all of the IBIWISI posts and "This is South Africa" and "it will never happen" are all going to hijack our lower prices!

The operators will turn around and use your negativity to justify their pricing structures.

Instead of posting "things will never change"... from now on I want you to post "we demand change".

Instead of posting "prices will not come down" ... post "We demand that prices come down"

There is no more excuse for poor service or inflated prices. If being negative makes you satisfied, then you deserve the high prices.

I for one am sick of them and I demand lower prices. Seacom is in a position to give that to us... no more excuses!!!

If you agree, then please quote this entire post!
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I agree
 
Garyvdh said:
Draft Letter to your Internet Service Provider....

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Dear Internet Service Provider:

As you are probably aware by now, the construction of the Seacom undersea cable is complete and is the cable is now in the testing phase. The Seacom cable is scheduled to go live on June 27, 2009. Seacom's aggressive pricing structure promises that South Africans will enjoy benefits of cheaper international Internet access within the next few months. Savings of at least 30 to 40% or more are expected on international connectivity since Seacom's wholesale pricing undercuts current providers by as a much as two-thirds.

I anticipate that you are in the process of preparing to connect to Seacom through your top tier providers here in South Africa and would like to ask you the following questions.

1) How have you as an ISP prepared for Seacom? What preparations or inquiries have you made to date?
2) When do you anticipate connecting to Seacom? or through to Seacom using top tier providers?
3) What pricing models and products are you looking at or proposing for the next few months?
4) How are you educating your customers about the coming benefits of Internet Access through the Seacom cable?
5) What logistical problems do you foresee in connecting to Seacom and providing access through to Seacom?

I assure you, that I as a customer an keenly interested in the answers to these questions and I intend to vote with my Rands as soon as Seacom access becomes commercially available. I would love it if you can provide me with the cheaper access I need. We in South Africa have been forced to pay inflated prices for far too long now and we demand cheap, affordable internet access. Let me specify my expectations for you.

1) I expect that prices will decrease in the next three months.
2) I expect that my internet cap will increase in the next three months.
3) I expect that latency and bandwidth throughput will be improved in the next three months.

I look forward to hearing from you regarding your plans. And I look forward to doing business with you.

Yours Faithfully.
A. Consumer

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Link for Telkom ISP? :D:D:D

EDIT: Sorry. I see other people are already on telkoms case.
 
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With telkoms service delivery I don't think Gary was expecting a response from them...
 
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