Cheaper Internet access is coming soon

............ It is just a matter of time. ................l.

In Africa TIME as we know it have no meaning or revelance. We are seeing this since when was it, 2005? So 2015+ do not seem to be that far fetched, that is If the "other" dream cables are done and TELKOM, NEOTEL, The Government, etc can keep their greedy paws of it.
 
Gary, I reckon that Laurie, as one of the owners, if not sole owner of Cybersmart has authority. :)

On point 5.
The setback is that metros are being seen to first.

On point 7.
Those interlinks are still Telkom and SAIX bound.

WA's feedback about jumping to 1st tier ISP level is still the most welcoming at this time.

On my phone now and its a bitch to type long messages, will give more input from office later.
 
this thread gives me shivers. good shivers. sadly not chivas.
 
Well if Laurie or anyone would like to confirm/figure out what kind of savings most "MyADSL-type" customers can look for, say in a 10GB international package?

I pay my line rental separately to Telkom through their Closer package, so I know this isn't the entire cost. I pay for international bandwidth ALONE, around R500 at the moment. So how much would you expect a plain 10GB international account to cost with Seacom in the market? At current prices lets say R490 - 30% it would be around R350. Sigh, this isn't exactly amazing. An entire new cable with, for our needs, unlimited international bandwidth and 10GB per month is still too expensive with some line rental thrown in?

Well then too bad for the other ISP's if someone can afford a direct pipe and the IRU agreement with Seacom.
 
Mailed Telkom this morning. Still waiting for feedback. Will keep you guys posted as soon as I hear something.
 
Well then too bad for the other ISP's if someone can afford a direct pipe and the IRU agreement with Seacom.

+1
Heck, sounds kinda brutal, so be it, best the smaller fish can do is join together and purchase option 1. Dunno if 30% less is going to cut it :confused:
 
It is one thing to try and stop the public from being so negative about Seacom. It is quite another for an owner of an ISP to come and burst my bubble.

Although...

I suspect that what happened to Laurie is exactly what was intended by Gary. Laurie got a nice little fright and jumped in to explain high pricing. The other responses we have been getting from ISPs are way better than the one given by Cybersmart.

In essence, this means that:

Cybersmart = 0
Other ISPs = 1

For me anyway...
 
all that I've been hearing these years is that it's expensive because of international bandwidth - that's what they have ALWAYS said
now it's only a tiny part of the high price problem :confused::confused::confused:
what gives?
I would not mind emigrating out of this internet black hole

there goes the positive thread LOL :mad:
 
Well, looks to me that there will be 3 competitors that have a chance of bringing low priced products, which is Neotel, Telkom and WebAfrica.
 
Well, looks to me that there will be 3 competitors that have a chance of bringing low priced products, which is Neotel, Telkom and WebAfrica.

and Internet Solutions...... and hopefully cheaper prices from Vodacom and MTN as well.
 
and Internet Solutions...... and hopefully cheaper prices from Vodacom and MTN as well.

Well for that to be meaningful you'd need them to be charging something like 10% of what they do now. :sick:

Internet Solutions seem more willing to me for some reason, and it's good that they would affect most ISP's pricing too. WebAfrica alone connecting I wouldn't expect as much from. But we'll see..
 
Well for that to be meaningful you'd need them to be charging something like 10% of what they do now. :sick:

Internet Solutions seem more willing to me for some reason, and it's good that they would affect most ISP's pricing too. WebAfrica alone connecting I wouldn't expect as much from. But we'll see..

Ja, I would hope for more from them... since they are already providing bandwidth that can be used with ADSL cheaper than Telkom. But their CEO was one of the two idjits who poured cold water on the cheaper prices scenario.
 
Thank you for your interest in technological advances and your choice of Provider relating to this.

To start off with I can assure you that I do extensive research in the Telecommunications market locally and International and I use this changing landscape to complete a Doctoral degree in Business Administration.

Hereby my response:

1.How have you as an ISP prepared for Seacom? What preparations or inquiries have you made to date?

Sainet raised enquiries and we are closely monitoring the progress in terms of the Seacom process as well as market expert opinions on the developments. Indeed, we used the opportunity to relocate our infrastructure in a Centre which is capable of tapping in a direct fiber link to and 1st Tier Operator’s bandwidth – including Seacom.

2.When do you anticipate connecting to Seacom? or through to Seacom using top tier providers?

Seacom landed in Mtunzini on the East Coast. In order for any provider to tap into Seacom, a connection to the distribution facility would be required. It is uncertain how Seacom will bring the connectivity to Johannesburg; that will be the next leg that will bring clarity as to how and where connections will terminate. Both options will be considered – direct into Seacom or via a 1st Tier provider, but we don’t have all the answers to make a firm decision.

3.What pricing models and products are you looking at or proposing for the next few months?

We will be introducing not less than 10 new products in the next three months (proprietary information at this stage) which will include lower pricing, creative uncapped, unshaped, content filtered access etc. This will be done without Seacom connectivity but can be adopted seamlessly.

4.What logistical problems do you foresee in connecting to Seacom and providing access through to Seacom?

I do foresee technical problems: Secom line need to proof itself as reliable, path of failure is more complex than the SAT-3 cable, new technology need to “ settle in” and proof itself as robust over at least a 24-36 month period. There are more details in this question which many market experts raised the past few months.

I raised the following question to Telkom who use the proven SAT-3 cable running along the West coast of Africa in a meeting 3 weeks ago: What do you plan to do if Seacom lands with aggressive bandwidth pricing? The answer: “We will either have to follow suit or lead the way”. The probability of lower prices on the existing SAT-3 surely exist and opens the window of lower telecoms prices across all mediums.

I trust this answers your questions, please mail me if you require more information.

Best Regards,

Marius Oberholzer
CEO (NDEENG(LC), MBA)
SAINET

Still no word from the other people I mailed directly.
 
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so the main ISPs go into a bar, the one says we should hold of price drops for as long as possible, the other says cool, the other says my thoughts exactly, and the other says im not dropping prices,they all foldover in laughter

jokes over
 
encouraging news from SAINET as well. Thanks ld13.

I just don't buy the delay though. The ISPs have known for a year now that Seacom is coming. You would think that all the necessary interconnects would be in place.
 
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