China - Taiwan Developments

Defonotaltaccount said:
How is that morally correct ?
A word ?
Whats China ?
Whats Taiwan ?
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China is a dictatorship
Taiwan is a democracy
If you can't discern the moral difference between the two, then am not sure there is anything I can say to convince you.
 
Cray said:
China is a dictatorship
Taiwan is a democracy
If you can't discern the moral difference between the two, then am not sure there is anything I can say to convince you.
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The Constitution of the People's Republic of China (PRC) states that its form of government is "people's democratic dictatorship". The Constitution also holds that China is a one-party state that is governed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

They used the word.
Now you need to explain.
 
Paulsie said:
Wierd how US intelligence was telling everyone about the invasion, yet they did nothing diplomatically.
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Citation needed.

Paulsie said:
Russia being preoccupied with war is to the US advantage. Comment has nothing to do with Russia.
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So the Russians did something that benefitted the US, and that is somehow the fault of the US???
 
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this isn't very difficult...
 
Defonotaltaccount said:
The Constitution of the People's Republic of China (PRC) states that its form of government is "people's democratic dictatorship". The Constitution also holds that China is a one-party state that is governed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).

They used the word.
Now you need to explain.
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Cool, do North Korea next.

You're a lunatic. :X3:
 
Defonotaltaccount said:
Your magic word was used.
Your one that makes actions moral.
So explain how the two democracies differ ?
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North Korea also calls itself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"

Hint, simply labelling your own country ax a democracy doesn't mean you are one.
 
Cray said:
North Korea also calls itself the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"

Hint, simply labelling your own country ax a democracy doesn't mean you are one.
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So now you gotta show the difference.
They both have the magic moral word.
Prove one is better than the other.
Or more moral.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
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Cosmik Debris said:
I wish you would do your own fact checking:

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Lmao!
 
Cray said:
China is a dictatorship
Taiwan is a democracy
If you can't discern the moral difference between the two, then am not sure there is anything I can say to convince you.
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Just to throw a spanner in the works.
You can't technically say democracy is morally superior. It's just the system we are used to.
For those that did not take a course or two in political science at varsity this is a short article, but not very in-depth, that may be interesting. ( I could find better sources, but this isn't the place for an in-depth discussing so it should be sufficient to make the point)

www.politicalscienceview.com

Forms of Government: Monarchy, Democracy & More

Explore the types, strengths, and weaknesses of governments and states for political insight and civic understanding.
www.politicalscienceview.com www.politicalscienceview.com

Democracy itself has a few variation as well as certain problems. But basically it's a "the best we have at the moment" kinda thing. Much like how capitalism has for decades been considered as such, yet these days some people prefer social democracy (not to be confused with socialism). Who knows what will be considered the "morally superior" version in the next century
 
Paulsie said:
Cannot link to a non event.
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So you assume that because you personally don't know of any diplomatic efforts that means there weren't any? Am curious, what is your diplomatic status such that you feel qualified to make these kind of pronouncements?

Paulsie said:
The US did something that benefited them and invasion is the end result.
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What did they do specifically? How did they force the Russians to invade?
 
Kieppie said:
Just to throw a spanner in the works.
You can't technically say democracy is morally superior. It's just the system we are used to.
For those that did not take a course or two in political science at varsity this is a short article, but not very in-depth, that may be interesting. ( I could find better sources, but this isn't the place for an in-depth discussing so it should be sufficient to make the point)

www.politicalscienceview.com

Forms of Government: Monarchy, Democracy & More

Explore the types, strengths, and weaknesses of governments and states for political insight and civic understanding.
www.politicalscienceview.com www.politicalscienceview.com

Democracy itself has a few variation as well as certain problems. But basically it's a "the best we have at the moment" kinda thing. Much like how capitalism has for decades been considered as such, yet these days some people prefer social democracy (not to be confused with socialism). Who knows what will be considered the "morally superior" version in the next century
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Fair enough...

democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried.
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Now tell me why you think that the Chinese system is better?
 
Cray said:
Fair enough...


Now tell me why you think that the Chinese system is better?
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I don't live there so I can't comment. Closest was in Taiwan, but besides some cultural differences one 1st world city is pretty much like the next..

We've been expecting them to break their shackles and rise up for decades. We debated at university that as their standard of living increases they will be less willing to work for, what we consider to be, slave wages which would essentially cripple their competitiveness with the rest of the world resulting in forced changes in their government. This hasn't happened. Sure there are some detractors and people that flee their country, but how significant is this to their overall population?

As to whether the system is better I suppose you could look at the influence exerted on the globe. Theirs have been rising consistently over the years, while western nations have started to wane. As westerners we view this as problematic, but for the average Chinese?
 
Cray said:
So you assume that because you personally don't know of any diplomatic efforts that means there weren't any? Am curious, what is your diplomatic status such that you feel qualified to make these kind of pronouncements?
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As said before, there have been agreemtns in place (Minsk 1,Minsk 2) that were never followed through.
Cray said:
What did they do specifically? How did they force the Russians to invade?
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Back to NATO expansion..
 
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