Chris Nolan's - The Odyssey.

I'll optimistically reserve judgement, Nolan deserves that. but yeah, not hyped.

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prod said:
blasphemy!

Tenet might be the only one I'm whatever on. The rest of his movies are amazing imo
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Hated Tenet, hated Interstellar more, hated Dunkirk, can't remember what happened in Memento lol, never even watched Inception, Oppenheimer etc.

His Batman trilogy isn't bad though.
 

Lupita Nyong’o’s 2 roles in The Odyssey, explained​

Role 1 is Helen of Troy. Nyong’o plays the legendary figure long described as the most beautiful woman in the world, whose departure from Sparta with a Trojan prince sets off the war at the center of Homer’s epic. Her husband, the Spartan king Menelaus, is portrayed by Jon Bernthal.

Role 2 is Clytemnestra. In a twist woven into Nolan’s own adaptation of the story, Nyong’o also plays Helen’s sister. Clytemnestra is married to Menelaus’ brother Agamemnon, played by Benny Safdie, and their union is far from a happy one. The two sisters’ parallel lives give Nyong’o the chance to inhabit two very different women caught up in the same world-altering moment.
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Classic comment on reddit...

A role that launched a thousand angry podcasts
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:ROFL:
 
wbot said:
Hated Tenet, hated Interstellar more, hated Dunkirk, can't remember what happened in Memento lol, never even watched Inception, Oppenheimer etc.

His Batman trilogy isn't bad though.
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For some reason Patrick Bateman always interferes with anything Bale acts in >> after American Psycho. It's always there beneath the surface. That's how good he was in that. So Bateman as Batman was not for moi.
 
Cray said:
As I said, it has some great moments, just not a fan of the stuff in between. That being said, I haven't watched the whole thing in ages, might have to try a re-watch.
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Brad Pitt called that role in, one of his worst performances.
 
FiestaST said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2054206670142685193

https://twitter.com/x/status/2054209067376165104
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time.com

Inside 'The Odyssey,' Christopher Nolan's Most Epic Movie Yet

In exclusive interviews, the director and his stars discuss the film he's been dreaming of for more than 20 years.
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Comparing Emily Wilson, E.V. Rieu, and Robert Fagles translations of The Odyssey, I feel less like I’m interviewing a director than sitting in office hours with a particularly approachable professor. He has studied the period, and the film is aware of its historical moment: the Trojan War marks the end of the Bronze Age, and Greece is about to plunge into a dark age of fallen kingdoms and lost literacy.

He has also studied the text and made several striking adaptation choices. Argos, Odysseus’ loyal dog, has been promoted from a cameo to a bit player. Odysseus and his son Telemachus (Tom Holland)—burdened by the legend of a father he doesn’t remember—are given more time together. Circe, an archetype in Homer’s version, gets a humanizing update thanks to Samantha Morton’s unsettling yet sympathetic performance. And the reunion between Odysseus’ fellow king Menelaus (Jon Bernthal) and his wife Helen (Lupita Nyong’o)—the most beautiful woman in the world, blamed for starting the war after a Trojan prince spirited her away—has always felt too neatly resolved in the poem. Nolan complicates it. And in a twist, Nyong’o also plays Helen’s sister, Clytemnestra, whose marriage to Menelaus’ brother Agamemnon (Benny Safdie) is, to put it mildly, acrimonious.
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Yeah, this is complicating since they aren't twins. Clytemnestra is a mortal. Helen and Clytemnestra have the same mother, but I guess Leda laid her eggs together or so to speak. According to the Time interview, Nolan took three translations under review... Now these translations are as well adaptations, and it is known that Nolan used Wilson's 'version' as inspiration. Wilson does not explore Leda's parentage, neither do Rieu and Fagles. I don't have an issue with creative liberties, though reading the Time exclusive it seems that Nolan is doing quite THE adaptation. He is using the translations as guidelines, but will be doing his own thing. I mean, it will be his translation using other translations.

So, I am cool with it all, except, it is the truth now,

Nolan also put rapper Travis Scott in the film as a bard. “I cast him because I wanted to nod towards the idea that this story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap,” says Nolan. Even the string instrument plays a surprising role. “Chris had this idea of the sound of the lyre being the pluck of Odysseus’ bow,” says Göransson.
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I like rap, man, but trap is crap. Please don't do crap.

Scott also did The Plan,


so he and Nolan are well acquainted.
 
Remember, in order to qualify for an Oscar, you have to have a certain amount of diversity in your movie.

The more trans, black, lesbian , etc. the better chance you have of winning the Oscar woke award.
 
wbot said:
Why? :sick::p
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You get good rap, and then you get bad rap. Some people like bad rap, but that is my perspective.

Nolan also said, quoting the Time article:

Nolan instructed Göransson not to use an orchestra in the score, if only to subvert expectations for a swords-and-sandals film. “It’s not like the orchestra existed back then,” says Göransson. “It was a challenge and also an opening to try to make something unique.” Instead, Göransson rented 35 bronze gongs of varying sizes, experimented, recorded them with synths, and began sending the director songs. Nolan also put rapper Travis Scott in the film as a bard. “I cast him because I wanted to nod towards the idea that this story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap,” says Nolan. Even the string instrument plays a surprising role. “Chris had this idea of the sound of the lyre being the pluck of Odysseus’ bow,” says Göransson.
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HEH? Ensembles have an ancient history. An orchestra is also an ensemble though more modern, but also old. Yet, the argument is made that orchestras did not exist in that time, but they are going with synths and trap :ROFL:

Nolan...

Nolan speaks with pride about the level of research that went into the production from all departments, especially considering our Bronze Age knowledge is based on “very fragmentary archeological records.” When the trailer dropped, classics buffs complained about Agamemnon’s armor—dark, shiny, and reminiscent of Nolan’s Batsuit. But what struck some as fantastical Nolan defends as feasible. “There are Mycenaean daggers that are blackened bronze. The theory is they probably could have blackened bronze in those days. You take bronze, you add more gold and silver to it and then use sulfur,” says Nolan. “With Agamemnon, Ellen [Mirojnick], our costume designer, is trying to communicate how elevated he is relative to everyone else. You do that through materials that would be very expensive.”
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Anyhow, he should stick to the epic poetry.
 
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