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Pitbull
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How so?
That is a fundamental sentencing act. It's like saying a brick layer doesn't know that he needs to put cement between the bricks when building a wall
That being said, I don't know if she did this on purpose maybe to afford the defence the ammunition to appeal it even though she wanted to please the masses. But that is a fundamental error.
Vrotappel
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LOL never admit it when you are wrong.
sand_man
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Yeah, just sit an extra 12 years, not serious... my bad...
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How so?
That is a fundamental sentencing act. It's like saying a brick layer doesn't know that he needs to put cement between the bricks when building a wall
That being said, I don't know if she did this on purpose maybe to afford the defence the ammunition to appeal it even though she wanted to please the masses. But that is a fundamental error.
Well the law is extremely large and extremely complex so those sort of technical mistakes can easily happen when you are dealing with many cases over a long time. It's not really akin to brick laying. The second mistake was just a typo pretty much.
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I do admit it when I'm wrong, I just said I wasn't aware of it :wtf:
Pitbull
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Not denying mistakes can happen.
The suspended sentence thing is not a complexity issue. It's a fundamental thing in sentencing like I said. But then again, whether or not she did it on purpose I don't know. She might be smarter that we all think. Throw in obvious errors for the defence to pick up on, but the masses to not understand. Giving them the opportunity to appeal and someone else doing the sentence without public scrutiny. I doubt the appeal will get the attention the first case did.
But we'll see.
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Lol
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It wasn't her judgement that was incorrect it was the warrants for their incarceration that were written incorrectly - that doesn't effect their sentence and it was quickly noticed and corrected to be in line with her actual judgement.
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Correctional services discovered the error - the warrant as written was not the same as the sentence she actually handed down - the sentence itself wasn't incorrect and the incorrect warrant doesn't change the sentence.
Pitbull
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You are referring to the length of sentence... what about the term of the suspended sentences?
You clutching at straws now tbh. She made a MASSIVE error. Something a Judge should not be making, even a normal clerk of the court should at least have a basic grasp of sentencing. She farked up epically. Whether on purpose or she really didn't know it doesn't change the fact that she messed up on a simple fundamental. That in itself should justify having doubt in her qualifications for being a Judge.
Nothing more to it...
Technical error
That is the point! She made a technical error in her sentencing too, don't you get that?
She's making loads of this "technical errors".
How can you sign something off that is not correct? "TLDR, let me just sign, I'M A JUDGE YOU KNOW!"
How don't you know a basic thing like the 5 years max suspensions of jail time? Did she forget this from Basic Law 101 in her 1st year of study???
I think maybe her being a judge is a technical error too!
That is the point! She made a technical error in her sentencing too, don't you get that?
She's making loads of this "technical errors".
How can you sign something off that is not correct? "TLDR, let me just sign, I'M A JUDGE YOU KNOW!"
How don't you know a basic thing like the 5 years max suspensions of jail time? Did she forget this from Basic Law 101 in her 1st year of study???
I think maybe her being a judge is a technical error too!
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She's also human. Judges don't transcend their humanity when given the job and become perfect beings who are never mistaken and are just perfect in every way. So what. That doesn't make her actual judgement incorrect - the length of the suspension makes no difference to the fact they are going to jail now for 11 years. The sentence was appropriate, the majority of people in the country agree and I have no doubt the SCA will agree too.
sand_man
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So given the high profile status of the case, you don't think she would have been extra meticulous with the processors and procedures? I mean sentencing is 90% of her job in the case and she made fundamental errors no?
Personally I think 11 years is way too harsh. 5 years would have been more than ample but it would be interesting to see what the SCA rules.
Kloofvreter
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I think a suspended sentence would have been apt, but that is not an option when you are on a witch hunt.
Saber_rider45
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In my experience I think they should have got 15 years minimum. since we all just handing down sentences.
Mephisto_Helix
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The clueless will never see that she messed up technically and shouldn't for a supposed judge
The clueless will also never think the law was abused by going overboard with sentencing ...... rapist and murdering scum an sit 5 years, these evil wit ous, get the max!
... watch the usual idiot jump in with the 'weh you all defending these white guys, weh'
The clueless will also never think the law was abused by going overboard with sentencing ...... rapist and murdering scum an sit 5 years, these evil wit ous, get the max!
... watch the usual idiot jump in with the 'weh you all defending these white guys, weh'
Pitbull
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Your biasness is shining through. If you could have your way a death sentence would be too lenient.
You seem to lack basic understanding and punishment coupled with the law. Sentencing someone to 11/14 years for at best, hurting their feelings? Geesus
People who have committed and was found guilty of Assault even Assault with intent and only got suspended sentences. Manana was found guilty of assault with intent and got what? Please, you trying to play devil's advocate her but you are failing miserably. No one is saying what they did was right and that they should not be punished. But 11/14 years in jail. Only a complete moron would think that is ok. Fark, even 3 years in jail is an over kill. But 11/14 years? Nea, you can't be this stupid...
SkippyRamirez
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Goeie donner. What these 2 guys did was no worse than what we did to each other during our hostel days, or initiations. Some thing were much worse, actually, and they get mass-murderer/terrorist type sentences. So clearly biased, it's sad.