Cops caught on camera 'executing' criminal (WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT)

Weird thing is nobody has the full story. In the video the other guy drove off and nobody stopped him. The officers were off duty and parked along the street. Were they buying groceries? Interviewed witness didn't mention an attempted robbery but said he took out a gun and started shooting the police car about 60 meters down the road. He runs and an officer shoots him again even though he's clearly incapacitated, and the gun is on the ground.

No wonder his brother wants answers.

Don't know where you got your version of the story.
The vehicle was a delivery van, delivering in that street and the driver tried to hide under the van, and then got into the van and drove off. he had nothing to do with the robbery and was merely in the same street the robber was running down.

The cops had a tip-off about a pending robbery, that is why they were in the area. The robber exited the shop, and while trying to walk away noticed the cops advancing on him, and that is when he drew and opened fire. They were following him about to make an arrest.

Nothing confusing at all.
 
Don't know where you got your version of the story.
The vehicle was a delivery van, delivering in that street and the driver tried to hide under the van, and then got into the van and drove off. he had nothing to do with the robbery and was merely in the same street the robber was running down.

The cops had a tip-off about a pending robbery, that is why they were in the area. The robber exited the shop, and while trying to walk away noticed the cops advancing on him, and that is when he drew and opened fire. They were following him about to make an arrest.

Nothing confusing at all.

Noted about the van. There's still the question about the cops being off duty.
 
That's hardly the point.
I'm not denying this guy is clearly a violent criminal, I don't however condone executions on the street.

Actually that's exactly the point. You want to understand why people condone executions and that's why. They conclude less people will be victims of violence with the execution than the alternative of this criminal being allowed to roam the streets.
I can see where Electric is coming from. Problem is that in this context, combined with the greater context of current crime levels in SA and our judicial system, its not hard to understand why the majority of people here dont have a problem with what that cop did.

Everyone knows someone who has been a victim of violent crime. These cops have had their colleagues killed in front of them, their friends.

In a more peaceful society I would feel different perhaps. Sad but true.
 
Actually that's exactly the point. You want to understand why people condone executions and that's why. They conclude less people will be victims of violence with the execution than the alternative of this criminal being allowed to roam the streets.

I don't want to understand if that is the justification.
 
I don't think if this action is condoned that it will have any affect on the violent behaviour of criminals. It might make criminals more trigger happy knowing that the cops are going to shoot first and ask questions later.
 
Because it's true and you're afraid it might lead to you condoning the cops action as well?

Was there some special rule on this forum that people can't have opposing views?
I actually fully understand, I just choose to not get involved in that conversation with you.
 
I don't think if this action is condoned that it will have any affect on the violent behaviour of criminals. It might make criminals more trigger happy knowing that the cops are going to shoot first and ask questions later.

Actually seems like that's the norm already ! Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that cops did us a service here ( on the face of it ) !
 
Based on what?

Based on my opinion that criminal appear to shoot a lot more at police these days, more police deaths from criminals shooting them than perhaps 20/30 years ago ( thumb sucks here, but once again based on my opinion).
 
Given the alternative option is being gunned down themselves that seems be the prevailing opinion yes.

they chased the guy, shot him and dropped him and he dropped his weapon in the process, all fine up to that point

however, the subsequent actions are the actions in question, if the cops had handcuffed and arrested him, no problem, summary execution, big problem, the cops fortunately are going to get the benfit of their case being heard in court, which is an opportunity not afforded to the perp, what may or may not have happened if he'd been arrested is nothing more than speculation
 
Its comforting to know that the perp will never ever pose a threat to police officers or civilians until the end of humanity.

Right who's next?
I want to feel safe for the foreseeable future and out current justice system doesn't quite cut it.
 
Based on my opinion that criminal appear to shoot a lot more at police these days, more police deaths from criminals shooting them than perhaps 20/30 years ago ( thumb sucks here, but once again based on my opinion).

Can't find numbers older than 2001 but it's been going down:

2001 125
2002 86
2003 112
2004 110
2005 91
2006 115
2007 118
2008 117
2009 103
2010 96
2011 103
2012 70
2013 68
2014 59
 
Its comforting to know that the perp will never ever pose a threat to police officers or civilians until the end of humanity.

Right who's next?
I want to feel safe for the foreseeable future and out current justice system doesn't quite cut it.
Well SAPS will take care of his family with a nice settlement, which is better than they could have hoped with their loser breadwinner crook.
 
I want to feel safe for the foreseeable future and out current justice system doesn't quite cut it.

How safe do you feel with the SAPS deciding who lives and who dies? Having dealt with a fair number of cops I assure you don't feel any safer with that notion.
 
I understand most of you don't like criminals... who does?
But suggesting that it's okay for policemen to execute people in the streets? What is wrong with you :erm:
 
I understand most of you don't like criminals... who does?
But suggesting that it's okay for policemen to execute people in the streets? What is wrong with you :erm:

Yeah I'm with you on this one. I hate criminals but what they did was just wrong. It would have been better if they just aimed and took him down when he was actually shooting at them. Executing him after wounding him was just wrong and can't be justified.

Sad to say that they will likely go to jail or at least the cop that pulled the trigger.
 
Krugersdorp cops involved in 'execution' to be suspended

hmed Areff, News24

Johannesburg - The four officers involved in the alleged execution of a wounded suspect in Krugersdorp have been handed notices of intention to suspend them. Further suspensions against other officers were also being considered.

That's according to Gauteng police spokesperson Colonel Noxolo Kweza, who said in a statement that the four were handed their notices while in custody.

Kweza said the four would now have 48 hours to respond in writing and indicate why they should not be suspended.

He went on to say that acting national police commissioner Lieutenant-General Khomotso Phahlane had said that SAPS would help unravel the incident.

"[Phahlane] said law enforcement officers are there to keep law and order and this should not degenerate into violence. This calls for assertive policing as opposed to police brutality," Kweza said.

"As Ipid [Independent Police Investigative Directorate] is already investigating this matter, we intend to co-operate with them fully to unravel the mystery behind this inhumane slaying."

The four officers who were allegedly involved in the incident were arrested by Ipid and are being kept at the same Krugersdorp police station where they served.

The officers, three men and a woman, handed themselves over on Monday morning, Ipid spokesperson Grace Langa said.

Three of the male police officers were believed to reside in the barracks next to the station.

They allegedly shot and killed Khulekani Mpanza on October 19.

The Sunday Times reported at the weekend it had closed circuit television (CCTV) footage of Mpanza being shot in the arm while running away after he allegedly fired shots at a police van.

In the footage, Mpanza is seen dropping his firearm before falling on the pavement where a policeman is seen to shoot him. Another policeman is seen approaching Mpanza and kicking him.

Then another shot - apparently to the head - is fired, leaving him dead.

"During the incident, it is alleged members from Krugersdorp had responded to a complaint of a suspicious vehicle parked outside a business premises in Lewisham. There were two people inside the vehicle," said Kweza.

"On arrival at the scene, two members saw a Toyota Conquest, with two men inside. As the members were approaching the vehicle, one of the occupants of the Toyota started shooting at the police who then returned fire. Police called for backup and another police vehicle which was in the... vicinity responded.

"The driver of the Toyota sped off while the other suspect escaped on foot. A car chase ensued and shots were fired. The suspect was shot and killed."

He said Mpanza's gun was allegedly stolen from a security guard in Moroka, Soweto.

"Police initially opened an inquest docket however the charges were later changed to murder after the footage surfaced."

News24
Source
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...nvolved-in-execution-to-be-suspended-20151102
 
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