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Ekhaatvensters
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Ill get the first one having a Comedy channel.. Comedy Central would be great, they show all the best stuff like SP and Family guy etc..
I couldnt care for sport, so someone can make a whole service for that and stop making everyone else pay for it.
I couldnt care for sport, so someone can make a whole service for that and stop making everyone else pay for it.
dualmeister
Honorary Master
If it ain't widescreen 5.1 1080i HDTV then I'm not interested 
I'll go with anybody (except Telscum of course) that
1) Brings back SciFi channel
2) Keeps their regular ad-breaks under say 5 minutes
3) Is cheap.
My big reservation with this is the fact that all of them will compete for the same programming, all wanting exclusive broadcast rights. Are we going to see such fragmentation that in a year from now you'll need 4 companies to watch your 4 favorite programs? Are Springbok games going to be on DStv, local games on Telscum and super12 on e-tv's sattelite? For this reason ICASA must limit the number of licenses or set down ground rules to prevent massive fragmentation of programming. They are so bad at regulating however, that all decisions are bad for the consumer
1) Brings back SciFi channel
2) Keeps their regular ad-breaks under say 5 minutes
3) Is cheap.
My big reservation with this is the fact that all of them will compete for the same programming, all wanting exclusive broadcast rights. Are we going to see such fragmentation that in a year from now you'll need 4 companies to watch your 4 favorite programs? Are Springbok games going to be on DStv, local games on Telscum and super12 on e-tv's sattelite? For this reason ICASA must limit the number of licenses or set down ground rules to prevent massive fragmentation of programming. They are so bad at regulating however, that all decisions are bad for the consumer
diabolus
Executive Member
Not defending Multichoice here, but since this whole thing is about the "cost of satelite tv" currently available, how on earth is R150 p/m beating DSTV here?
From DSTV's site:
So erm, huh? Sounds like it's another little cartel developing here, all basically costing the same. Same sh*t different frequency. If they are offering 10 channels for R150 p/m then how will they beat R450 p/m for ALL their channels? LEt me guess, they'll be "cheaper" by
(a) Forcing you to sign some 2+ year contract going at R449 p/month .
(b) Completely confusing you by charging you per minute or per channel, instead of a monthly rate.
-> implying all kinds of funny tricks where you add "bundles" and "bouquets" and combine stuff and add "services" , but if you do the calculation at the end of the day you are paying exactly the same.
(c) They will advertise their service for R200 p/month and then charge you another R200 p/m for "satelite positioning costs" .
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with regards to the cap, I don't think the TV (iptv, cable tv) will be part of the cap, they'll probably just charge a fixed fee for the TV (R150 as stated above) and the internet cap will be charged seperately, this would be the logical way to go about it, if they want to get customers
My big reservation with this is the fact that all of them will compete for the same programming, all wanting exclusive broadcast rights. Are we going to see such fragmentation that in a year from now you'll need 4 companies to watch your 4 favorite programs? Are Springbok games going to be on DStv, local games on Telscum and super12 on e-tv's sattelite? For this reason ICASA must limit the number of licenses or set down ground rules to prevent massive fragmentation of programming. They are so bad at regulating however, that all decisions are bad for the consumer
If its based on free market bidding I'm pretty sure DSTV'll hold onto at least all the major sporting events. They already have over a million subscribers at a higher rate than everybody else seems to be looking at so they should be able to easily outbid everybody else. Also if you look at the channels offered on DSTV Compact they definitely seem to be aiming at a different market to what they do with their full service. Guessing there's probably going to be more competition for that income bracket and that DSTV'll stay pretty much unchallenged in the high income market, although Telkom might have to aim there, who else could afford them anyway!
Not trying to defend Multichoice but the problem here is you don't have the economies of scale that you do overseas. You could easily have 50 million subscribers with a satellite that has a European footprint for instance whereas Multichoice, covering the whole of Africa and the Middle East, only has 1,5 million.
Multichoice is another Telkom, just like their closer options which they could have offered years ago, now that competition is around the corner now they are offering it.
Multichoice could offer those choices now and even years back, but why should they.
Woopeee, now I must really get satellite.
duderoo said:
True, Multichoice uses excuses that they are restriced by ICASA with regards to creating buquets. I emailed them last month to find out about bouquets and they say due to licencing restrictions they are not allowed to create other bouquets, where for example subscribers can choose which channels they want. If it was really due to licencing how did they create a Compact bouquet with those crap channels, they could of at least put mnet in the bouquet for say R250. MNET (1 channel) costs around R230 a month and DSTV bouquet with over 55 channels cost around R450, this doesn't really make sense, becauce the other 54 channels will cost R220.
True....and I do not have satellite but my fath-in-law does, but how many of the other channels do people really watch.
But if they offered what people want they'd have more customers.
This is basically the same excuse Telkom uses. It is a variation on the excuse for not lowering the price of DVDs, CDs and games too.
If true why don't they widely publicise this? I'm not convinced it is true.
If I could choose 10 channels I want for R150 I'd get satellite without hesitation, but I can't choose, I'm not interested in most of those in the full product and the limited one is missing some core ones I'd want while including several I'd never watch.
Geriatrix
Executive Member
Multichoice are still thinking with a business mindset of 30 years ago, where you make money by charging more.
Instead they can make better bouqet options (like adding atleast Mnet to the compact packadge) which will definately attract more subscribers, which ,in turn, would lead to a huge increase in advertising revenues.
There are other money generating possibilities aswell with more viewers, you just have to be a little creative and take some initiative, but then again, thats not how business works in this country is it?
If you don't believe me, think Google. They(DSTV) are idiots to run the business the way they do but hey, its their shareholders who are losing out.
Instead they can make better bouqet options (like adding atleast Mnet to the compact packadge) which will definately attract more subscribers, which ,in turn, would lead to a huge increase in advertising revenues.
There are other money generating possibilities aswell with more viewers, you just have to be a little creative and take some initiative, but then again, thats not how business works in this country is it?
If you don't believe me, think Google. They(DSTV) are idiots to run the business the way they do but hey, its their shareholders who are losing out.
It is beyond reason why companies think like that, surely they can reason and says lets drop the price and we will get more customers, but they probably don't want to take the risk on the "maybe we will get more customers".
i will eat my dirty socks if we have a single channel more by the end of 2007 nevermind "many more choices"
true neither is there anyone else to compete! it's like telkom
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