Cricket: Test Cricket

killadoob · Jul 13, 2009

What did he do wrong? He almost won the the first test in the ashes, what more do you want from him?

stefan9 · Jul 13, 2009

killadoob said:
What did he do wrong? He almost won the the first test in the ashes, what more do you want from him?

Win the game, almost means zip in sport. Why was north a part timer bowling at the end and not one of the recognized seamers?

OzzieCapie · Jul 13, 2009

killadoob said:
What did he do wrong? He almost won the the first test in the ashes, what more do you want from him?

Snatched a draw from the jaws of victory ???

killadoob · Jul 13, 2009

Well the way i see it is ricky could have bowled his recognized seemers and still drawn and you guys would be saying why did he not try mix it up and bowl a part timer, so there is no real way he can win

Ou grote · Jul 13, 2009

stefan9 said:
Win the game, almost means zip in sport. Why was north a part timer bowling at the end and not one of the recognized seamers?

He managed to win a test against India by bowling Michael Clarke at the end of the day.
No reason to not try something like that again.

OzzieCapie · Jul 13, 2009

Oh ...plus he is grumpy and whinging again

stefan9 · Jul 14, 2009

alf101 said:
He managed to win a test against India by bowling Michael Clarke at the end of the day.
No reason to not try something like that again.

Michale clarke had bowled and taken wickets in the game before that moment and had take wickets against india before that as well. If Michael Clarke was bowling at the end vs england I have no issue but I do have serious question marks about north.

Ou grote · Jul 14, 2009

stefan9 said:
Michale clarke had bowled and taken wickets in the game before that moment and had take wickets against india before that as well. If Michael Clarke was bowling at the end vs england I have no issue but I do have serious question marks about north.

Latest news is that Ponting was trying to get as many deliveries as possible in.

Devill · Jul 14, 2009

OzzieCapie said:
Oi...I was the one who said he was over-rated as a captain:erm:

Oooo sorry

Wooot, I rated Flemming 10 times more.

killadoob said:
What did he do wrong? He almost won the the first test in the ashes, what more do you want from him?

OzzieCapie said:
Snatched a draw from the jaws of victory ???

ROFLMAO!

killadoob said:
Well the way i see it is ricky could have bowled his recognized seemers and still drawn and you guys would be saying why did he not try mix it up and bowl a part timer, so there is no real way he can win

Why the hell would you bowl a part timer if you have people like M. Johnson there? Even Siddle with some real pace should have rapped up that last partnership

stefan9 · Jul 14, 2009

alf101 said:
Latest news is that Ponting was trying to get as many deliveries as possible in.

M.Clarke could do the same and has the reputation of getting people out. If you wanted to get more deliveries in you go for some like clarke you don't go for north.

Ou grote · Jul 14, 2009

stefan9 said:
M.Clarke could do the same and has the reputation of getting people out. If you wanted to get more deliveries in you go for some like clarke you don't go for north.

He's carrying an injury, otherwise he probably would've bowled.

daveza · Jul 15, 2009

daveza said:
The Aussies are the last team who should comment on ' the spirit of the game '.

As if they wouldn't have done exactly the same thing if the situation was reversed. They weren't good enough to finish off the tail-enders - game drawn so move on Ponting.

And from the Guardian -

"Had the words been spoken by just about anyone else on Planet Cricket, they might have carried some weight, but from the diminutive Aussie they smack of crass hypocrisy," wrote Matthew Syed in The Times.

"This is a man who has turned slow play into an art form. Australia have been fined 33 times for slow play since 1995: 20 of them under Ponting's captaincy and eight times since the start of 2008.

"This is a man whose attempts to put pressure on umpires has become so sustained, insistent and aggressive that it has started to cause concern at the highest levels of the game.

"This is a man who has been fined six times for breaches of the ICC Code of Conduct (in addition to the fines for time-wasting).

"Had the positions been reversed, we all know what would have happened. Ponting would not merely have sent on the 12th man and the physio; he would have dispatched the batting coach, the doctor and the team toe-nail cutter.

"Hell, he would have sent out Dame Edna, Rolf Harris, the cast of Home and Away and Skippy the bush kangaroo if he thought he would have got away with it."

Ou grote · Jul 15, 2009

Rolf Harris is cool

Devill · Jul 15, 2009

daveza said:
And from the Guardian -

Brilliant

Ou grote · Jul 15, 2009

Flintoff to retire from Test cricket

http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content/story/414514.html

I'm sure he'll still be fit enough to play IPL.

AirWolf · Jul 15, 2009

alf101 said:
Flintoff to retire from Test cricket

http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content/story/414514.html

I'm sure he'll still be fit enough to play IPL.

The man who created Br666666d will surely continue in the more financially rewarding formats

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stefan9 · Jul 15, 2009

Freddie had to make a decision his body wasn't struggling with the work load. Its sad we will only see him for the 50 over and 20/20 stuff here in November/December. Makes it easier in the test thought. Hopefully he can go out on a high from tests.

Devill · Jul 16, 2009

alf101 said:
Flintoff to retire from Test cricket

http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content/story/414514.html

I'm sure he'll still be fit enough to play IPL.

Look I must agree that ODI and pro20 is A LOT easier on the body.

Bowling 20-25 overs a day and then standing around in the sun for another 5-6 hours is tough on the body when your older and have had a history of injuries.

killadoob · Jul 16, 2009

Yea and they said they cannot keep him in the test team as a batsmen, which is a bit odd though considering they do not have many batsmen as good as him. So now they can add an extra tail to their line up

when he goes anyhow.

OzzieCapie · Jul 16, 2009

killadoob said:
Yea and they said they cannot keep him in the test team as a batsmen, which is a bit odd though considering they do not have many batsmen as good as him. So now they can add an extra tail to their line up when he goes anyhow.

In the past 4 yrs, since last Ashes, he has:

"averaged only 28.25 with the bat and 34.68 with the ball in 23 Tests (both figures down on his overall Test record of 31.69 and 32.51), and he has not managed a century or five wickets in an innings in any series since then".

He is neither a front line bowler nor a batsman in its own right and an all-rounder at best...certainly no Kallis.

And...

In the 25 matches that Flintoff has missed since 2005, England have won 12, drawn 10 and lost on only three occasions. In the 23 matches in which he has been present, those numbers are almost exactly reversed - won 3, drawn 7, lost 13.

With those stats...you'd be urging him to go right away.

btw CricInfo is your friend

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