Cricket world cup discussion thread

@icedreama.Did you forget that Ingram scored a hundred on debut.How would you feel if Faf got ducks in his next two innings.

Dude seriously?? That was against Zimbabwe and under no pressure. His 2nd hundred came against Pakistan but again under no pressure. Other than that, what has Ingram done? Sweet nothing. I am a fan of his as I was happy when he got selected since he was such a prolific scorer in the MTN 40 but he just isn't mentally ready for international cricket. Sorry to say but Faf's innings had much more value than Ingrams century on debut. Not to mention we were playing the 2nd ranked team in the world as opposed to the 10th (or wherever Zimbabwe are ranked).
 
Will Van wyk be able to play the big hitting role down the order? Cause as it stands we dont have any quality sloggers now that Miller has been dropped.
 
@sandmann.Ingram has only played in a handful on ODI's.Surely, you can't rate him on solely on these.There were batman who started off worse than him and continued to play for many ODIs.
 
Miller is only 20 so his exclusion is justified.He'll have plenty of chances to prove himself.I agree on Faf being chosen over him.
 
I think we went a bit spin heavy. Botha, Tahir, Duminy,Du Plessis and peterson. we should have dropped Peterson to accommodate the extra batsman / bowler. I would have chosen Ryan. Van Wyk is a good selection IMO. covers both our keeper and opening batsman slot. Ingrim or miller? that was a straight shoot out and the selectors obviously think Ingrim is beter suited.

BUT WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR FIELDING. I feel we have let our standards fall abit
 
The return of Matt Prior is the major surprise in England's 15-man World Cup squad after he was preferred to Steve Davies for the wicketkeeper's role. Davies was the original glove man in the one-day squad against Australia, but won't be travelling to the subcontinent as England make another change behind the stumps.

The rest of the squad was as expected with Ajmal Shahzad securing the final fast bowler's slot and James Tredwell, the Kent offspinner, named as back up for Graeme Swann and Michael Yardy. Paul Collingwood was included despite his recent omission against Australia, Luke Wright retained his spot as the spare allrounder and Stuart Broad is on track to recover from the stomach injury that kept him out since the second Ashes Test in Adelaide.

The last-minute switch to Prior was unexpected and meant England changed their one-day wicketkeeper for the third time in less than a year. Prior last played against Bangladesh, in Chittagong, in March where he batted in the middle order before being replaced by Craig Kieswetter, who held the position until the series against Pakistan in September, when Davies earned a chance.

Davies scored 197 runs in five matches against Pakistan and when he was retained for the current series against Australia he appeared set for the World Cup. He made 42 in the opening ODI in Melbourne but it was a scratchy innings which included four let-offs. The selectors were not convinced he was the right man for the subcontinent so Prior, who has been playing in the Big Bash for Victoria since the end of the Ashes, gets another chance at the top of the order. He will link up with the squad in Hobart ahead of the second ODI, where he will open with Andrew Strauss.

"Matt Prior returns to the England ODI squad after a brief absence and given his recent form and his batting style, which is very well suited to the subcontinent conditions, we believe his inclusion is warranted," Geoff Miller, the national selector, said. "Despite some strong performances both with the bat and behind the stumps by Steven Davies, we feel that Matt's game will be better suited to the conditions in Bangladesh and India, the venues staging England's group matches."

Prior has played 55 one-day internationals and averages 25.38 with a strike-rate of 74.80, while his record in India, where England will play five of their six group matches, is unflattering with 158 runs in 11 matches at an average of 17.55. However, he did finish the Ashes series in strong form with 85 in Melbourne and 118 in Sydney, and has since hit 51 off 29 balls for Victoria on his Big Bash debut against Tasmania.

Prior is guaranteed his place in the starting XI but the same can't be said of Collingwood after he was dropped for the opening match against Australia so he could "clear his mind". He is expected to be given some match time towards the end of the one-day series and has been backed to be a key part of the World Cup.

"Paul Collingwood may not have scored as many runs as he would have liked so far on the tour of Australia but he has been a consistently strong performer for England in limited-overs cricket for a long period of time," Miller said. "His experience, ODI knowledge and skills across all three facets of the game make him a valuable member of the squad and he'll be looking to make a big impact at another global event."

Miller was also confident the squad had the depth to cope with all the challenges that will be put forward during the tournament. "With spin bowlers set to play a prominent role in this World Cup we feel we have quality and depth in Graeme Swann, Michael Yardy and James Tredwell who have all shown their capabilities at international level," he said.

"We believe we have selected an extremely exciting World Cup squad that offers balance with several options across the entire squad. With this tournament being staged on the subcontinent the conditions will require a specific style of cricket and we feel that we've selected a squad that can prosper in these conditions."

Squad Andrew Strauss (capt), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, Eoin Morgan, Kevin Pietersen, Matt Prior, Ajmal Shahzad, Graeme Swann, James Tredwell, Jonathan Trott, Luke Wright, Michael Yardy
source: cricinfo
 
I have to say it again

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/289239-Proteas-vs-India-December-January-tour/page101


Something smells abit awash with selection.

Smith has too much influence on team selection.

Kluseners career was cut short of same reasoning. So was Kemp and now Albie.

Albie is a destructive batsmen on his day. Even Dhoni was astonished that Albie is not being selected. Wonder howcome Albie is one of a select fewo of IPL players that WAS NOT part of the auction.

Albie can and should be used in the Gilchrist/ Jayasuriya mould...batting upfront in sub-continent conditions , little seam movement upfront and giving the ball a lekker klap. His bowling is not consistent enough, but he is still a pretty useful all-rounder.


And those that think Albie is just a hit-and-miss player... he just scored 180+ in a recent supersport series match batting at 5/6.He also is taking wickets at domestic level .
 
"A bit"... now THAT is a huge exaggeration. From being the No.1 fielding team, to down somewhere near the bottom.
There is still some great extravagant fielding, like Steyn's catch off his bowling, and Morkel's on 3rd-man boundary... but they just aren't getting the basics right. Not taking text-book catches, easy misses in the field, not getting hand-to-ball and allowing fours, not hitting stumps, etc.
I am generally happy with the overall team selection,. but I feel that if we want to have any chance at taking this cup, we are going to need to get our basics right.

SNIP... BUT WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR FIELDING. I feel we have let our standards fall abit
 
"A bit"... now THAT is a huge exaggeration. From being the No.1 fielding team, to down somewhere near the bottom.
There is still some great extravagant fielding, like Steyn's catch off his bowling, and Morkel's on 3rd-man boundary... but they just aren't getting the basics right. Not taking text-book catches, easy misses in the field, not getting hand-to-ball and allowing fours, not hitting stumps, etc.
I am generally happy with the overall team selection,. but I feel that if we want to have any chance at taking this cup, we are going to need to get our basics right.

That's exactly how I feel. this team needs to lift it's game because in a world cup dropped catches ( as we know from 99) cost you matches. we simply cannot drop dolly's and expect to win this WC
 
This I can agree with. He is a good leader and possibly a good captain but as a player I don't know if he can cut it. He's not a great spinner of the ball, merely a canny bowler, and really not much of a batsman.
Johan Botha:
Batting:
Ave: 18.11
SR: 85.01

Bowling:
Ave: 40.61
SR: 52.2
Economy: 4.66

So his bowling stats are worse than Albie's, his batting stats are worse than Albie's, and his economy is the only thing that's a bit better (0.8 rpo better). Even his economy has started dipping since being banned from bowling the d00sra. I honestly don't know what skill Botha brings to the team, yet he's the next captain.
 
Miller is only 20 so his exclusion is justified.He'll have plenty of chances to prove himself.I agree on Faf being chosen over him.

Faf should be in the squad but miller or a stroke player like rilee rossouw should be in ahead of ingram. He is not a number 7, doesn't have the game for that type of role imho.
 
West Indies have recalled batsman Ramnaresh Sarwan for the 2011 World Cup, after he had been left out of the national team's rain-marred tour of Sri Lanka last year. Sarwan last represented West Indies in the ODI series at home against South Africa in May and June last year and was subsequently dropped due to fitness issues and indifferent form on the domestic circuit. The World Cup team will be led by Darren Sammy and also includes fast-bowling allrounder Andre Russell, who is yet to make his ODI debut.

Sammy took over the reins from Chris Gayle last year. Gayle, Dwayne Bravo and Kieron Pollard, three players who turned down contracts with the West Indies Cricket Board, all feature in the squad following their participation in the WICB one-day tournament last year; as per WICB regulations, participation in domestic tournaments is a criteria for selection into the national team for the corresponding format.

Nikita Miller and Sulieman Benn are the two specialist spinners, both left-arm orthodox, while Russell, Kemar Roach and Ravi Rampaul make up the pace options. Carlton Baugh was preferred over Denesh Ramdin as wicketkeeper. Baugh has not played an ODI for West Indies since November 2008, but impressed with a half-century in the second Test in Sri Lanka.

Sarwan hasn't played Tests in more than a year, and was not offered a WICB contract last year. In the WICB one-day tournament, he averaged 21.33 in three games with one-half-century for Guyana and his team was knocked out in the league stage. However, he has an excellent ODI record in India, where West Indies play five of their six group games. He has played 15 matches there with an average of 57.30 and five half-centuries.

"The Selection Committee deliberated extensively over the selection of this most important World Cup squad and while choosing some players was straightforward we believe that we have come up with a good mix of players who will be able to do well in the Asian conditions," Clyde Butts, the WICB's chairman of selectors, said. "We have some of the most experienced ODI cricketers on the international stage along with the effervescence and freshness of some quality young players who we are confident can not only contribute to the team but win matches."

In the lead-up to the tournament, West Indies play three ODIs in Sri Lanka - a series rescheduled after the one-day leg of the December 2010 series was cancelled due to excessive rain.

West Indies squad: Darren Sammy (capt), Chris Gayle, Dwayne Bravo, Darren Bravo, Kieron Pollard, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Devon Smith, Sulieman Benn, Nikita Miller, Carlton Baugh (wk), Andre Rusell, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Adrian Barath.
source: cricinfo
 
With a name like Nikita in their squad,it reinforces the point about how this cricketing giant has fallen.
 
1 Smith
2 Amla
3 Kallis
4 De Villiers
5 Duminy
6 Du Plessis
7 Van Wyk(WK)
8 Botha/Tahir
9 M. Morkel
10 Steyn
11 Tsotsobe/Parnell

Gives us as short a tail as possible, includes our 2 Strike bowlers (Should have at least 3 strike bowlers, especially considering we have 0 misers) and with Van Wyk and Du Plessis we have some power for the latter overs, cover WK and secondary spin(if faf is bowling well we could drop one of the weaker bowlers for Petersen)
 
Johan Botha:
Batting:
Ave: 18.11
SR: 85.01

Bowling:
Ave: 40.61
SR: 52.2
Economy: 4.66

So his bowling stats are worse than Albie's, his batting stats are worse than Albie's, and his economy is the only thing that's a bit better (0.8 rpo better). Even his economy has started dipping since being banned from bowling the d00sra. I honestly don't know what skill Botha brings to the team, yet he's the next captain.

Never looked at this. Honestly, you need guys to take wickets in this format of the game.
 
With a name like Nikita in their squad,it reinforces the point about how this cricketing giant has fallen.

Yes, the Windies are not the might they used to be. Do recall Miller being a handy spinner though?
 
I am done supporting SA cricket. We are a complete joke of a team no matter who we put in. We are destined to be morons in the crocheting world. God, we might as well field the sh*ttest team we can think of because they will perform exactly the same if not better than our current team. Within the space of 4 overs, we went from 106/1 to 119/5. What a joke. Even Zimbabwe will beat us
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Wrong thread. Head over to the SA v India thread...
 
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