Crystal Web DSL performance feedback thread Part 4...

Are you having the same problems as us capped users? If so, it likely is :sick:

I posted this last night. It was a bloody horrible experience.

Feels like Afrihost all over again. Streaming is utter ****e tonight, and with the added bonus of very sluggish overall internet experience.

I wonder how I can corner them into giving me a straight answer, as they'll probably try to lie their way out of it.

EDIT: BTW, did WinMTR and speed tests when it was so bad last night, no issues seemed to be indicated by these tests - even my jitter was only 4ms at most, which indicates the line was stable as ****, which leads me to make a conclusion in pretty much one direction.
 
So has nobody asked about this on the chat, ie what is this new way of throttling capped users lol at least Afrihost has now differentiated between shaped and unshaped capped accounts.
 
This is sounding like an ISP running out of bandwidth and struggling to find the finances for additional bandwidth.
 
So last night I decided to get a test account with Afrihost and man was things better. I could stream Kodi, updates ran faster and pages loaded quicker. Should I get an account? Unfortunately the 1gig was to little as I discovered that Gears of War 4 was again updating in the background. Please help me make this decision.
 
This is sounding like an ISP running out of bandwidth and struggling to find the finances for additional bandwidth.

Wondering why now all of a sudden. Surely their percentage of non-paying customers hasn't increased by that much in the last 6 months or so.
 
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So it seems my account has been de-prioritized....Apparently if your usage goes beyond normal home users your account get drop into a pool, after that its de-prioritized if the usage is not stable after some day.
Now I for one didnt know that. And perhaps if I was actually receiving my usage stats...
Shoddy communication....but thats not new is it?

Same happened to me. I have a complaint open. I was told by support to email legal about it.
Haven't used Crystalweb since last week Wednesday, because feel that is not what I signed up for. They don't mention anything about what constitutes too much usage on Free Time. Also no warning or notification email to let you know this happened.
Been waiting for feedback since I logged the request, but they come back with nothing. Absolute useless support I have to say.
 
Happened to me on Home Premium...so yeah

Did they confirm it? My service was very sluggish 2 days ago and buffering, but I have no idea whether it was deprioritisation or otherwise.

I'm kinda hoping it was deprioritisation so I can tell them to shove it from July.
 
Did they confirm it? My service was very sluggish 2 days ago and buffering, but I have no idea whether it was deprioritisation or otherwise.

I'm kinda hoping it was deprioritisation so I can tell them to shove it from July.

I'm on xTREME Home Capped and had it de-prioritized. Logged a request on Wednesday last week and last time I spoke to support it was still the case. Was supposedly an automated system that IS implemented and they were investigating.
My support ticket was with a manager, and now with legal since the 8th. The only feedback I've received on the matter is a reference number for my complaint.
Seems they want people to just leave, because after almost a week I have not further info.
 
I'm on xTREME Home Capped and had it de-prioritized. Logged a request on Wednesday last week and last time I spoke to support it was still the case. Was supposedly an automated system that IS implemented and they were investigating.
My support ticket was with a manager, and now with legal since the 8th. The only feedback I've received on the matter is a reference number for my complaint.
Seems they want people to just leave, because after almost a week I have not further info.

Can @treebsd confirm this?
 
I'm on xTREME Home Capped and had it de-prioritized. Logged a request on Wednesday last week and last time I spoke to support it was still the case. Was supposedly an automated system that IS implemented and they were investigating.
My support ticket was with a manager, and now with legal since the 8th. The only feedback I've received on the matter is a reference number for my complaint.
Seems they want people to just leave, because after almost a week I have not further info.

Wow. It's amazing how don't-care they've become since Shaun was banned from MyBB. When he was on here, I was always under the impression that they really care.
 
Are the news servers broken? Can't authenticate the premium server and the IS one is running at 200KB/s.

Edit: Live chat sent me new settings for the premium server, but all it's done is raise the limit from 6Mbps to 7Mbps, with the same wild fluctuations in speed.
 
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Did they confirm it? My service was very sluggish 2 days ago and buffering, but I have no idea whether it was deprioritisation or otherwise.

I'm kinda hoping it was deprioritisation so I can tell them to shove it from July.

I was told last night that I was deprioritized, but my streaming shouldn't be impacted, only downloads. which is ok with me as I stream 99% of things. I did have to argue with the tech though because he kept asking me to do things with local servers and I kept telling him my international streaming was the problem, nothing local.
 
Weirdly enough I also got throttled, I mean deprioritized, for the first time ever this month. Didn't think much of it at first, but reading this thread it seems that CW has really started laying down the law as of now. I wonder what else we can expect to see change...
 
Hi all,

Shaun here. Want to clear up a few things from our end with you guys directly.

On de-prioritisation: for many years now we’ve barely enforced our shaping and deprioritisation terms on end users and have largely maintained a completely unshaped experience for everyone. This was perfectly acceptable to us but with recent technology changes, we have to reconsider this approach. We’ve had to begin to curb some of the very top-end of that utilisation, due to some users exceeding exceptionally large volumes of data, which have impacted everyone’s experience. With Telkom FTTH speeds we’re now seeing utilisation exceeding 3 to 4 terabytes of data on entry-level capped accounts (as an example) and just about all of this data happening in peak hours. There are also a few forum members who are intentionally running these types of accounts at absolute full speed on multiple fibre lines concurrently, in an effort to cause us network problems. These specific individuals will be well known to the forum due to their previous malicious actions, and unfortunately it really does only take a few to spoil it for many. Accordingly, we’ve had to build a new monitoring system to identify this type of activity and curb it immediately. It’s new on our end and there may certainly be errors. The intention here is two-fold: 1) stop WISPs from buying our cheap accounts and using them for their wireless backhaul for hundreds or thousands of clients at a time; and 2) curb the very top-end of utilisation where it is impacting on other users’ experience to such an extent that even we have decided to act on it.

I’ll make the commitment that if you feel you’ve been impacted by this in error, let me know on here by PM with your username and I will personally investigate it for you and liaise directly. Just be a little patient as my days are chockablock full right now, however I will make a concerted effort to spend some time on the forum over the coming days.

On the network upgrades we made: they were successfully completed on our end and all locations are operating back to normal again. We’re still not entirely happy with some of the work in Western Cape and we’ll be making some final changes towards the end of this month, but we don’t expect there to be any impact whatsoever to end users. This should happen seamlessly in the background and will be completed as a part of our ordinary network maintenance schedule.

Basically, if there are any consistent performance issues, let me know by PM so I can personally investigate it for you. The network is purring along on our end without a hassle so if you have an issue, it’s likely that one of our systems may have an error and I’d like the feedback directly so that we can tweak it accordingly. Also as the network stands right now, there are no performance related issues so if it’s not part of the network management module causing a hassle, then it could be line related. I’ll help where I can to identify these for you guys.
 
Just to show their side of the story (because they're inactive on here at the moment):

(01:08:25 PM) Support General: There has been circumstances where clients abuse the internet and that would affect many other clients.
(01:08:44 PM) Support General: Usage in excess of a Terabyte and for some 2TB
(01:09:20 PM) Support General: Those are wholesale amounts of data and they were advised to be Resellers rather than Normal clients

I followed up about it, because it was bothering me, but at least good to know they're not just doing it willy-nilly. I'm not saying I agree with it, but there it is anyway.

EDIT: Good to see my request for communication from management has helped. :)
 
Weirdly enough I also got throttled, I mean deprioritized, for the first time ever this month. Didn't think much of it at first, but reading this thread it seems that CW has really started laying down the law as of now. I wonder what else we can expect to see change...

The problem for me is that they are doing it based on my usage of free time data. I have more than enough cap left, for which I pay, but cannot use it to its fullest potential.
So basically having free time is causing my normal usage to suffer, and I cannot choose when to use which part.

Then it's better to go for something like an Afrihost unshaped account with Afrihost Plus thrown in there. They supposedly never shape unshaped account, no matter what the usage.
 
Wow. It's amazing how don't-care they've become since Shaun was banned from MyBB. When he was on here, I was always under the impression that they really care.

We certainly do and I certainly do. Nothing has changed on that front whatsoever. We're in discussion right now about appointing MyBB reps again to MyBB as we all agree that there are no hard feelings in that regard, and bygones are bygones. It's tough though to find the right person with the correct amount of insight into the network like I was always able to give you guys. If we're to return, it's something we want done right and with the same level of input I was able to provide you guys with.

I'll spend the next few days (as and where I can) on the forum and see how much time I can personally put back into the forum. It's incredibly difficult given my schedule though.
 
Hi all,

Shaun here. Want to clear up a few things from our end with you guys directly.

On de-prioritisation: for many years now we’ve barely enforced our shaping and deprioritisation terms on end users and have largely maintained a completely unshaped experience for everyone. This was perfectly acceptable to us but with recent technology changes, we have to reconsider this approach. We’ve had to begin to curb some of the very top-end of that utilisation, due to some users exceeding exceptionally large volumes of data, which have impacted everyone’s experience. With Telkom FTTH speeds we’re now seeing utilisation exceeding 3 to 4 terabytes of data on entry-level capped accounts (as an example) and just about all of this data happening in peak hours. There are also a few forum members who are intentionally running these types of accounts at absolute full speed on multiple fibre lines concurrently, in an effort to cause us network problems. These specific individuals will be well known to the forum due to their previous malicious actions, and unfortunately it really does only take a few to spoil it for many. Accordingly, we’ve had to build a new monitoring system to identify this type of activity and curb it immediately. It’s new on our end and there may certainly be errors. The intention here is two-fold: 1) stop WISPs from buying our cheap accounts and using them for their wireless backhaul for hundreds or thousands of clients at a time; and 2) curb the very top-end of utilisation where it is impacting on other users’ experience to such an extent that even we have decided to act on it.

I’ll make the commitment that if you feel you’ve been impacted by this in error, let me know on here by PM with your username and I will personally investigate it for you and liaise directly. Just be a little patient as my days are chockablock full right now, however I will make a concerted effort to spend some time on the forum over the coming days.

On the network upgrades we made: they were successfully completed on our end and all locations are operating back to normal again. We’re still not entirely happy with some of the work in Western Cape and we’ll be making some final changes towards the end of this month, but we don’t expect there to be any impact whatsoever to end users. This should happen seamlessly in the background and will be completed as a part of our ordinary network maintenance schedule.

Basically, if there are any consistent performance issues, let me know by PM so I can personally investigate it for you. The network is purring along on our end without a hassle so if you have an issue, it’s likely that one of our systems may have an error and I’d like the feedback directly so that we can tweak it accordingly. Also as the network stands right now, there are no performance related issues so if it’s not part of the network management module causing a hassle, then it could be line related. I’ll help where I can to identify these for you guys.

Shaun the issue here is that your usage email stopped working a while ago and users have no control over what's cooking. I could also not find any info regarding what these thresholds are than i should not go over to avoid this, especially for a xtreme capped account.
My initials communication has been open since last week Wednesday, with no feedback yet (apart from ticket numbers). It's even with legal now. I find the level of feedback given quite pathetic.
 
We certainly do and I certainly do. Nothing has changed on that front whatsoever. We're in discussion right now about appointing MyBB reps again to MyBB as we all agree that there are no hard feelings in that regard, and bygones are bygones. It's tough though to find the right person with the correct amount of insight into the network like I was always able to give you guys. If we're to return, it's something we want done right and with the same level of input I was able to provide you guys with.

I'll spend the next few days (as and where I can) on the forum and see how much time I can personally put back into the forum. It's incredibly difficult given my schedule though.

Fair enough. It's nice to see you here anyway, and you've helped me a lot on a personal level with issues before, you know... happened.

I was imploring Support General a mere 20 minutes ago that your management account here becomes more active again, as it certainly helps both sides - you see now how fast us consumers can jump to conclusions, and word-of-mouth has a big influence.

I will, however, follow up my sluggish internet with support, and follow up with you if that doesn't bring any resolution. For some reason it was fine last night, but during the preceding days, it very much wasn't.
 
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