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Over at Daily Maverick there is an interesting piece on the DA's alternative budget.

DA's alternative budget: Tim Harris's 8% growth plan

Slash useless government departments. Put faith in the free market, not state capitalism. Drop the NHI, it’ll never work. The Democratic Alliance’s alternative budget is a big departure from what finance minister Pravin Gordhan will deliver. It may be a smaller party, but the DA’s idea of how the national budget should be offers up an interesting counterfoil to the ANC’s own plans. By SIPHO HLONGWANE.
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It looks like state-driven capitalist economy (ANC following China) vs free market economics (DA).
 
Good stuff.

The cape should split from the rest of the country.
 
ghoti said:
lol. Not ganna happen. The DA, the ANC or any other rational human would not allow it.
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Perhaps not right now, but circumstances could quite easily change. Some history just needs to play out.
 
ghoti said:
lol. Not ganna happen. The DA, the ANC or any other rational human would not allow it.
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As a matter of interest, considering you know the ins and outs of the DA, why would the DA not want the Western Cape independent?
 
Ahhh the lovely "Cape Independence" BS again...
its never gonna happen, and anyone who thinks it will, and that it is even vaguely possible for the Cape to survive on its own is a complete and utter bloody moron.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
Ahhh the lovely "Cape Independence" BS again...
its never gonna happen, and anyone who thinks it will, and that it is even vaguely possible for the Cape to survive on its own is a complete and utter bloody moron.
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But what are the reasons? Hard facts please.
 
hawker said:
Income from?

Wine? Tourism? a bit of fishing?

Gauteng supports the rest of the country, like it or not.
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I think we can be self sufficient.
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The Western Cape economy contributes roughly 14,5% to South Africa's GDP, growing at an average of 3,2% a year. More sophisticated sectors such as finance, real estate, ICT, retail and tourism have shown substantial growth, and are the main contributors to the regional economy. The value of residential property has increased significantly.

Many of South Africa's major insurance companies and banks are based in the Western Cape. Most of the country’s petroleum companies and the largest segment of the printing and publishing industry are found in Cape Town.

After Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal, the Western Cape's manufacturing sector is the third-largest contributor to the national manufacturing sector. The clothing and textile industry remains the most significant industrial source of employment in the province.

Cape Town remains the economic hub of the province, encompassing industrial areas such as Epping, Montagu Gardens, Parow and Retreat.

Read more: http://www.southafrica.info/about/geography/western-cape.htm#ixzz1n5olzU79
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also:
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The Western Cape's total GDP for 2008 was R268.26bn, making the province the joint second largest contributor to the country’s total GDP, at 14.3%. It also has one of the fastest growing economies in the country, growing at 4% in 2008[10] and is expected to grow by 3.2% in 2011.[11] At 19.7% the province has a substantially lower unemployment rate than the national average standing at 23.2% in 2009.[12] The province's Gini coefficient of 0.63 is lower then South Africa's Gini coefficient of 0.7 making it more equal then the rest of the country[13] whilst still being extremely high and unequal by international standards. The Western Cape's Human Development Index is the highest in South Africa at 0.7708 compared to the South African average of 0.6675 in 2003.[14]

The biggest sector in the Western Cape's economy is the financial, business services and realestate sectors contributing approximately R77 billion in 2008. Manufacturing was the second largest contributor valued at R43.7 billion in 2008 with the agricultural sector being th fastest growing at 10.6% in the same year.[10] High-tech industries, international call centres, fashion design, advertising and TV production are niche industries rapidly gaining in importance.[15] The city of Cape Town is ranked as the most entrepreneurial city in South Africa with Early-Stage Entrepreneurial Activity being 190% greater than South Africa’s national average
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Apache said:
As a matter of interest, considering you know the ins and outs of the DA, why would the DA not want the Western Cape independent?
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They are not radical separatists. They are for all South Africans and all of South Africa. They believe in the country and its people and will not sell it out.
 
Apache said:
I think we can be self sufficient.
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Try again....

the Western Cape is not an economy that can be self-sufficient on the global stage.

We also won't mention the NATIONAL referendum that would have to take place for the Cape to gain its independence and you can bet your bottom dollar that it won't go the way you want it to.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
Try again....

the Western Cape is not an economy that can be self-sufficient on the global stage.

We also won't mention the NATIONAL referendum that would have to take place for the Cape to gain its independence and you can bet your bottom dollar that it won't go the way you want it to.
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Absolutely right. The Western Cape offers way too much and is considered too valuable to let go.
 
Apache said:
As a matter of interest, considering you know the ins and outs of the DA, why would the DA not want the Western Cape independent?
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Well some people will mention practical problems, like farming, lack of economy, eishkom, etc. But more than anything, i think the biggest stumbling block is that they still believe there is a shot they can win the national vote and somehow transform the country fast enough to keep power while the ANC go into hyperbrainwashing propoganda mode blaming poverty on the DA, mines, big business, and the rich white man. Poverty over the long term manifests as a product of individual choices, and at the end of the day you cant control what people choose to do with themselves, no matter how hard you try.

Removing poverty is essentially impossible when you have an existing population who are essentially ruined in terms of education and the like, with no real signs of improvement over the last 18 years or so. While things can be improved over the long term, poverty will persist for generations to come because culturally there is just so much baggage preventing everyone from becoming "first world". You just have to look at zimbabwe to see education is not a panacea. Most Zim people i run into - and have even hired - are extremely educated(university educated). Its the little details found in culture that matters the most. Not a piece of paper and the ability to do some maths or write a poem. Look at the crap Vioadmin and co so eloquently and capably spout. Getting his ilk to think properly is a slightly bigger problem than just sending them to an average school.

Eventually people will come to the conclusion separation is the only option.
 
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Apache said:
Absolutely right. The Western Cape offers way too much and is considered too valuable to let go.
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Nope, you seem to have a self-inflated sense of your place in this world..

The Western Cape is a part of SA, and I as a South African want South Africa to stay as it is in terms of geographical boundaries..... but then I think since you want this Cape Independence thing to actually happen, that you have a very pisspoor understanding of economics, politics, and well pretty much everything about how this world operates.
 
B.O.F.H. said:
Try again....

the Western Cape is not an economy that can be self-sufficient on the global stage.

We also won't mention the NATIONAL referendum that would have to take place for the Cape to gain its independence and you can bet your bottom dollar that it won't go the way you want it to.
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Not yet. But that needs to change over the next 50 years.

And if not the cape, some other part of the country.
 
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