data usage policy on RAIN

Speedster said:
Thanks for the wikipedia cut and paste. Could you elaborate how any of this relates to rain?
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Not Wikipedia... It seems people do not understand what is throttling and shaping and how it is done by the network providers and ISPs. Thought I would share the info... When people are educated they are much less prone to be dicks.
 
Speedster said:
Maybe you should re-read the title? "Data usage policy on rain" has everything to do with whether rain has implemented some form of cap on their uncapped product. Why are you even discussing the various types of caps if it is not in relation to rain's implementation thereof?

The point is that there is no cap on rain's product although it is clearly purposed for "bona fide mobile use" and they reserve the right to take some form of (currently unspecified) action against users who abuse this service.
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you have no idea how the conversation got here. there have bean various things mentioned in this thread. stop taking offence to it. these posts are in response to people who do not understand certain terminology.

and please explain what is bona fide mobile use. lol

somehow you have equated mobile to some type of usage limit, that is friggin hilarious
 
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backstreetboy said:
I understand you're too cheap to give them more money. Good luck.
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..ag ok

i have 2 rain fixed lte sim cards(discontinued but still working) and 3 uncapped rain sim cards. but i use 100mb fibre at home.

but hey, keep on keeping on! lol youll get there eventually
 
Mist4h20 said:
Mweb/Telkom etc all use "Uncapped" but are still throttled in general.

Mweb:

"Uncapped products will never stop working, or charge you for extra data no matter how much you use in a month. It is important to know, however that uncapped products do have an acceptable usage policy on them and the service will slow down temporarily if you are using extreme amounts of data."

In other words Throttled, yet it is named "Uncapped"

Also:

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/245812-not-all-uncapped-fair-use-policies-are-created-equal.html

For there to be no limit it is specifically mentioned e.g. Uncapped as well as unshaped, unthrottled or no FUP/AUP.
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And Mweb also received a lot of flack for that at the time the same as Rain because throttling means it's a softcap.

Speedster said:
Why should I ask them - surely you should know this if you keep insisting that they have implemented a cap.



Yet universally marketed and sold as uncapped.
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You keep dodging and running circles around the issue.

Mist4h20 said:
"Softcap" that's so ADSL times, get with the program, the term is throttled, every provider says uncapped and they have throttling implementation, unless otherwise stated, your heels are so dug into your own theory that your knees are covered in ****, do a quick Google on softcap how many companies still use that term?
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Just because it's become common and people like you fall for the marketing doesn't mean it's correct.

Speedster said:
Maybe you should re-read the title? "Data usage policy on rain" has everything to do with whether rain has implemented some form of cap on their uncapped product. Why are you even discussing the various types of caps if it is not in relation to rain's implementation thereof?

The point is that there is no cap on rain's product although it is clearly purposed for "bona fide mobile use" and they reserve the right to take some form of (currently unspecified) action against users who abuse this service.
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So you admit they will eventually take action but still deny there being any cap. You're also still failing to state what counts as "bona fide mobile use". If I stream 2TB Youtube on my phone is that still "bona fide mobile use" and Rain should not send such an email?

MavChat said:
Throttling:
Throttling limits the speed of all services and protocols (i.e. the overall speed of your internet connection).
Regardless of the line speed, a throttled account will only be able to achieve limited speed when throttling is applied. The line itself is not affected, and using an unthrottled account will return line performance to normal.
Throttling is applied on an individual per user basis, based overall usage within a given month. Throttling is only ever applied when demand on the network exceeds available network capacity, and is de-activated when demand returns to normal levels.



Shaping:
Shaping is the implementation of protocol-based priority, to manage demand on the network (i.e. some parts of the internet are made to be faster than others, using prioritisation).
When shaping is implemented, realtime, interactive services are given higher priority than non‑realtime, non-interactive services, effectively slowing the performance of non-prioritised services in favour of those that are more important to an overall good broadband experience. Shaping can be applied to any user on a shaped data package in general (not based on usage thresholds), and the impact to non-priority services is determined by the level of demand and available network capacity.
Shaping is applied only when demand on the network exceeds available network capacity, and relieved when demand decreases.
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That's incorrect. Most will throttle or shape you even if there's ample network capacity.
 
access said:
jou clutch gly

Just because it's become common and people like you fall for the marketing doesn't mean it's correct.
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People like me? I havn't fallen for anything, I have uncapped fibre. No throttling no "softcap".

Lol but anyways over this thread. Not worth my time.
 
Mist4h20 said:
People like me? I havn't fallen for anything, I have uncapped fibre. No throttling no "softcap".

Lol but anyways over this thread. Not worth my time.
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Good for you that you have a truly uncapped unthrottled service. Thousands of people don't.
 
Bond said:
With phones having 128GB/256GB/512GB and ever expanding limitation of SD cards, you can download HD movies and entire seasons on the phone.



Phone from the future :cool: or stream to Chromecast.
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I've seen a dude with series collections on his Iphone
 
30gb per day watching Netflix/youtube. That's 870-930gb p/m. This is just 1 user, multiply that by a family. That makes 1tb low in this day and time.
 
Marcell1992 said:
30gb per day watching Netflix/youtube. That's 870-930gb p/m. This is just 1 user, multiply that by a family. That makes 1tb low in this day and time.
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30GB per day is 10 hours per day. Anybody watching that amount of telly seriously needs to reconsider their life choices

Edit: back on topic, I doubt this scenario could be classified as "bona fide mobile use"
 
I wouldn't be able to burn through more than say 50 gigs of data on my phone. What the hell is this guy doing...
 
Speedster said:
30GB per day is 10 hours per day. Anybody watching that amount of telly seriously needs to reconsider their life choices

Edit: back on topic, I doubt this scenario could be classified as "bona fide mobile use"
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If you're retired, you're retired. And that's what my stepfather is.
 
Marcell1992 said:
If you're retired, you're retired. And that's what my stepfather is.
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doesnt matter, you must use the internet the way these guys decide you must. they are bona fide mobile use experts. lol
 
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access said:
doesnt matter, you must use the internet the way these guys decide you must. they are bona fide mobile use experts. lol
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because sitting in front of the TV all day is obviously the height of mobility
 
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So rain started blocking the use of VPN's on the mobile service. Whats next? Censoring our internet access?
 
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