Dear White People

Yeesh - it would help if you used paragraphs.

I was just asking for clarification - you said the shift of power in those countries naturally went back to their majority of the population - it didn't refer to economic power.
 
Yeesh - it would help if you used paragraphs.

I was just asking for clarification - you said the shift of power in those countries naturally went back to their majority of the population - it didn't refer to economic power.

Ok let me clarify, It meant absolute control and economic control. In South Africa absolute rests in a few blacks hands, and economic is not even close!
 
Ok let me clarify, It meant absolute control and economic control. In South Africa absolute rests in a few blacks hands, and economic is not even close!

in which country does a minority, a single entity, business or whatever control the economy of the country? In most countries (those that are worth living in) people who are educated will earn more money than those who are not, the only way to earn money and not be educated to my knowledge would be through politics or theft.

You're going to have to really argue a good point if you would want me to believe that uneducated whites are more competitive in the South African economy than educated blacks.
 
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in which country does a minority, a single entity, business or whatever control the economy of the country? In most countries (those that are worth living in) people who are educated will earn more money than those who are not, the only way to earn money and not be educated to my knowledge would be through politics or theft.

You're going to have to really argue a good point if you would want me to believe that uneducated whites are more competitive in the South African economy than educated blacks.

Purpleonlineadmin will blame black peoples lack of education on white people. He will find a way to argue that it's unfair that in South Africa the white minority make up the majority of engineers, lawyers, doctors, chartered accountants, academics etc.
 
Purpleonlineadmin will blame black peoples lack of education on white people. He will find a way to argue that it's unfair that in South Africa the white minority make up the majority of engineers, lawyers, doctors, chartered accountants, academics etc.

I can also put my fingers in my ears and yell nananana it isn't so, however that doesn't bode will for my argument, my evidence of my line of reasoning.
 
Lol which balanced chip? I'm complaining about it being edited out because MyBB edited out the '***' in Ba-foo-keng, not because they don't want the term mentioned here, chill don't be so defensive lol. Not ALL black people are conspiracy theorists:whistle:

I'll excuse your lack of understanding down to English probably being your 3rd or 4th language.
 
I'll excuse your lack of understanding down to English probably being your 3rd or 4th language.

Lol Wow! My lack of understanding? Insult and deflection in one sentence. Now on a more serious note. I made the Ba-foo-keng post because MyBB deleted an afrikaans expletive and my point was littered with astrisks not because I was cussing but because any word that contains that expletive will be edited. Lol and now you insulting and assuming I lack understanding because English isn't my 1st language? lol Well done lol
 
in which country does a minority, a single entity, business or whatever control the economy of the country?
South Africa

In most countries (those that are worth living in) people who are educated will earn more money than those who are not, the only way to earn money and not be educated to my knowledge would be through politics or theft.

and who barred those people from getting a decent education to begin with to make sure the jobs they got were either as public servants or gardners? themselves? Lol I suppose in your head, blacks/coloureds/indians not being in the economic majority = they not educated enough by default? Nothing to do with racial bias or nepotism in any workplace? Lol OK!

You're going to have to really argue a good point if you would want me to believe that uneducated whites are more competitive in the South African economy than educated blacks.

So you can backup with pure confidence that ALL Caucasians in senior positions are there because they were more educated than other races, nothing nothing at all that some might be there because of nepotism/racism? With absolute surety? lol
 
Thats is a pretty large chip you have there.

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Purpleonlineadmin will blame black peoples lack of education on white people. He will find a way to argue that it's unfair that in South Africa the white minority make up the majority of engineers, lawyers, doctors, chartered accountants, academics etc.

Lol I asked you in a previous post where did I blame anyone? Is it an ideal situation that the minority make up the majority when it comes to economic control? who am I blaming there?

I made several posts where I made an analogy that what would Caucasians in America say or feel like if most of American companies were ran by Latin Americans or African Americans? and not because Caucasians were stupid or inadequate at times, but because those minorities blocked the majority from access to the same benefits as them prior.

19 years since democracy, the born free's are not even old enough to work, those who are old enough to be educated in the majority (like myself), most are not old enough to be in managerial or senior positions, the few who are in the same age bracket as those given advantages in apartheid are very very few or corrupt and friends of the ANC. So I go back to the arguments of those who say things like "I'll excuse your lack of understanding down to English probably being your 3rd or 4th language." because I'm black and therefore percieved more stupid? lol who am I blaming? stop being a kiss ass because even in my arguments I'm not arguing for black people but for everyone who got blocked off because of apartheid, including coloureds and indians.

Just because the opportunities are there now doesn't mean that reality is that even your own grandparents or great grandparents, if they grew up in South Africa owned nothing and made to be second rate citizens. Black people are constantly painted as "beggers, uneducated and always looking for handouts or passing brown envelopes" even by forumites in here when most black people I know are actually trying their bloody best to make things work. Most are not even given the chance just because we "blame"? Who did I blame now? Check my track record and you'll see I do EVERYTHING for myself and I don't support neither ANC or DA, and happen to speak English quite fine, despite what Albereth might PROBABLY believe.

Just because I'm on MyBB and educated doesn't mean I should forget the fact that most black or coloureds are not there because of that same legacy, as I told daveza, just because I'm comfortable now, I won't apologize for looking out for other people who I could be in their shoes. Soweto/Gugulethu or any South African township didn't suddenly sprout up just because I blame people, they are there because that's the reality of the legacy Apartheid created, and Soweto won't suddenly be Houghton in 20 years! Deal with it!
 
What is our perceived stance on your post? Just so we get the context right.

My perception and assumption is many in here have no problem with things the way they are because they do not know, nor care, about the plight of the lower classes. They see them as leeches who caused their own issues and vote the ANC into power, therefore deserve to be in the position they are in.

I detest the ANC with a passion, and even I know when they F up I become one of their biggest critics. But the ANC did not build the hundreds of townships across South Africa just because certain races weren't good enough to live amongst another certain race. I gave EVERYONE in here Acts they could read up on to see why black/coloured/indian people tend to complain about land issues.

Reason I asked "1. Do YOU REALLY understand what actually happened in South Africa? Not what YOU read in some book, but actually grasp what happened?" is because if you did and actually cared instead of complaining about how abused you are from your comforts, you'd actually be doing something for someone else.

Reason I asked "2. Do YOU understand the concept of cultural assimilation and how it was applied to South Africa?" You'd understand how most races besides your own have been conditioned to hate themselves just because the those races were made to feel second class, this isn't even unique to South Africans, but every race Europeans came into contact with. You'd understand what legacy that left today "even 20 years in our democracy", but again I doubt you care, because it doesn't bother you and is not your problem.

Reason I asked "3. Have YOU ever sympathized with anyone in South Africa's lower class (or any class lower than you), be it a poor coloured/black/indian/white person, or do matters outside your boom gate (or where ever you reside) don't concern you? (If YOU) Hired a maid, it doesn't count as "sympathizing". You needed a service, they provided you with one!"
Is because if you did care, instead of doing good things for people on allocated days or when forced to, you'd drive through places like Diepsloot/Gugulethu etc and see how people live in there, or take a drive to one of the many villages across the country to see people who still live without electricity and actually understand their plight. Not some article in some paper, but actually understand and know and call them by their first names. Again this is not an obligation therefore you shouldn't care, it's not your problem as long as you pay your taxes.

4. Have YOU ever visited ANY South African historical monuments (on your own accord and free will, not a mandatory bloody school trip)? From your prior answer, have YOU visited any Apartheid museum, or any monument that aims to make people aware of the realities of Apartheid?
You would know besides the ANC there were many many more apartheid fighters, therefore the ANC DO NOT REPRESENT ALL BLACK PEOPLE! You would know and understand that some black people understand the roles played by people like Bram Fischer, Joe Slovo, Helen Jospeh or any other Caucasian freedom fighters (which ANC supporters choose to not even bother knowing). So stop trying to make it seem like ALL black people are trying to take away your McDonalds Supersized meal, what black people like myself are trying to make you aware of is while you stuffing your face with all the delights and comforts your life have given you, there are perhaps millions of others out there who can't even have a meal and all they asking is understand their plight while they trying to play catch up. But again this shouldn't be your problem, because regardless of what happened you wouldn't be in their shoes if things had turned out differently for you right? Since we are insulting each other :D
 
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and call it a chip on MY shoulder or anyone from any other race that speaks up against believing things are still not fair in 2013, it's fine. That is a chip I will carry with a freakin beaming smile because it means I understand and feel for people who are in a tougher situation than myself daily.

All my arguments have included also Indians and Coloureds because I have grown up in those communities and we all related as far as certain conditions, be it economically or not. 20 years has never and will never be a long enough time span to fix anything. Ask the Germans or Russians if you think this is unique, only diff is in South Africa the ANC has made things potentially worse by looking out for a select few within their ranks except for every other race, including the majority. Even if I complained about poor people, while drinking organic coffee, and sitting on 100% leather couches, I would be ashamed of myself, not because of what I have but because I'd have the audacity to speak down on people who are already down. But we all brought up differently, and we all won't sympathize with everyone right?
 
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so who is this single entity or minority that controls the economy?


and who barred those people from getting a decent education to begin with to make sure the jobs they got were either as public servants or gardners? themselves? Lol I suppose in your head, blacks/coloureds/indians not being in the economic majority = they not educated enough by default? Nothing to do with racial bias or nepotism in any workplace? Lol OK!
currently the ANC introduced bantu education called OBE is baring mainly black people from getting a decent education.
However you totally missed the point.

An educated black person is more competitive in South Africa's economy than an uneducated white person.

So you can backup with pure confidence that ALL Caucasians in senior positions are there because they were more educated than other races, nothing nothing at all that some might be there because of nepotism/racism? With absolute surety? lol

all of them, but those in governmental positions or government backed firms. I can back it up with logic. If they weren't there based on merit (education isn't all that counts, but it helps a lot) then those companies would go broke.
Any company that employs someone for racial purity will not be able to compete in a market. (unless they get bailed out by government, like SABC, Eskom and SA Airways).

However given that you couldn't bring up a coherent argument I am going to assume that you do not have one.
 
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and call it a chip on MY shoulder or anyone from any other race that speaks up against believing things are still not fair in 2013, it's fine. That is a chip I will carry with a freakin beaming smile because it means I understand and feel for people who are in a tougher situation than myself daily.

All my arguments have included also Indians and Coloureds because I have grown up in those communities and we all related as far as certain conditions, be it economically or not. 20 years has never and will never be a long enough time span to fix anything. Ask the Germans or Russians if you think this is unique, only diff is in South Africa the ANC has made things potentially worse by looking out for a select few within their ranks except for every other race, including the majority. Even if I complained about poor people, while drinking organic coffee, and sitting on 100% leather couches, I would be ashamed of myself, not because of what I have but because I'd have the audacity to speak down on people who are already down. But we all brought up differently, and we all won't sympathize with everyone right?

that is a very nice emotionally loaded hogwash.
 
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Our country is multiracial and multicultural to a high degree, and that is reason enough for constant finger pointing and accompanied power struggle
 
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