Depression.

Alan said:
got any severe cravings for any foods?
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When I quit Zoloft a few months ago I had a constant craving for chocolate. I was eating two slabs of chocolate a day at one stage. But it's over now.
 
killadoob said:
Naaaa you would never believe something like this could be true because you read one article. So i won't even bother :D.

Dude i cannot keep up with every post, sometimes i ask a question and you may reply and 3 pages have gone by, it isn't that easy getting abused and then trying to remember who you ask and then remembering to ensure you check for answers :D.

the whole point was that there too many people out there on drugs when they do not need them. Signal has now realized that so it's done now. If signal can see it anyone can see.

I know what you said, you cannot think any different, it's impossible. So then there you go, you just diagnosed yourself with depression and it's impossible to be anything else. I remember saying to my parents when i was younger that it was impossible to be happy because i had a chemical imbalance in my brain and i stood by that for a few years before i decided to give that whole positive energy a proper go but i understand some people can't do it. They just don't have the right brain mixture to be anything but depressed.

Sadly the positive energy and behavioral changes will never take off when drugs are the first step and there is no recommendation to try CBt but hopefully people see that there are other first step options out there.

It is the professionals determining who does and does not need meds copa, they generally determine you need meds. So how can anyone be getting confused virtually everyone who thinks they are depressed gets given meds. People who have been through the right methods yes fine but those who get them in less than hour they need them copa, the professionals said so.
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Kdoob, you have killed about a million cyber trees seemingly posting that positive thinking is the cure for depression and approved (legitimate) medication should not be used.

But it has been shown from your own posts that you use a variety of illegal drugs (plus alcohol) to cope with social anxiety as well as use Viagra.

My question is simply this - why do you not use this power of positive thinking you keep on going on about to help you when you meet new people? Why do you need coke? Booze? Why do you need viagra when all you need is to think it up, man (according to your credo)?

Or are you just the worlds biggest hypocrite?
 
Spunkywunky1 said:
Kdoob, you have killed about a million cyber trees seemingly posting that positive thinking is the cure for depression and approved (legitimate) medication should not be used.

But it has been shown from your own posts that you use a variety of illegal drugs (plus alcohol) to cope with social anxiety as well as use Viagra.

My question is simply this - why do you not use this power of positive thinking you keep on going on about to help you when you meet new people? Why do you need coke? Booze? Why do you need viagra when all you need is to think it up, man (according to your credo)?

Or are you just the worlds biggest hypocrite?
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Please don't :) This should have been a thread to help people understand more about this disease and it just turned into a circus. I understand you're upset with some of killa's suggestions, as most of us are, but please let's not start the circus again.
 
MsDenz said:
Please don't :) This should have been a thread to help people understand more about this disease and it just turned into a circus. I understand you're upset with some of killa's suggestions, as most of us are, but please let's not start the circus again.
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It's just one question ;)

But having said that, don't you think that kdoob is a perfect example of why people do not seek out professional help for depression when they really need to do so - i.e. people saying suck it up man, you're just being a big wet, you only need to think positive blah blah blah.

And then couple that with the fact that Kdoob is a self-confessed drug user who partakes of these drugs to cope with anxiety; well then, I think he should be called out for it. Personally, I find it rather despicable - and not in a cute Pixar animation way.
 
Well positive thinking can cure depression for those who do not have a brain issue.

I don't take any drugs for anxiety or depression anymore on a daily basis, i only struggle a bit in a social situation, everyday life for me is fine. So if i go out twice a month to a function with a new people i use something to help me.

I have never said drugs are bad, i have said they should not be the first step but jeez we are rehashing it this over and over. spunky i thought it was done. I am not self confessed with anything bud, i just made some suggestions that people should look into because many people don't need drugs as a first step. You are the one who cannot handle that positive thinking or CBT type therapy has helped thousands of people. That is your issue not mine. I have no idea why people are upset with suggesting another form of treatment for people who may not need drugs but that is how the people are here. Nothing i can do about it.

Calling it a disease should only happen when people are verified to have the disease, it should not be a disease until you have gone through the measures to ensure you have the disease. Being sad, down and having a negative outlook on life is not a disease unless proven without doubt it is your brain that has an issue.

If you don't grasp it then so be it. Mild to moderate depression in general can cured without drugs but i will get attacked for saying that no doubt :D. Helpful threads should not be about attacking people because they are suggesting something that works for some people.
 
killadoob said:
Well positive thinking can cure depression for those who do not have a brain issue.

I don't take any drugs for anxiety or depression anymore on a daily basis, i only struggle a bit in a social situation, everyday life for me is fine. So if i go out twice a month to a function with a new people i use something to help me.

I have never said drugs are bad, i have said they should not be the first step but jeez we are rehashing it this over and over. spunky i thought it was done. I am not self confessed with anything bud, i just made some suggestions that people should look into because many people don't need drugs as a first step. You are the one who cannot handle that positive thinking or CBT type therapy has helped thousands of people. That is your issue not mine. I have no idea why people are upset with suggesting another form of treatment for people who may not need drugs but that is how the people are here. Nothing i can do about it.

Calling it a disease should only happen when people are verified to have the disease, it should not be a disease until you have gone through the measures to ensure you have the disease. Being sad, down and having a negative outlook on life is not a disease unless proven without doubt it is your brain that has an issue.

If you don't grasp it then so be it. Mild to moderate depression in general can cured without drugs but i will get attacked for saying that no doubt :D. Helpful threads should not be about attacking people because they are suggesting something that works for some people.
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...Hence a big part of treatment centers involves chill time where you get to talk about stuff. Our problem in this thread is that people want to put 'depression' into a box. It's like saying there's a hole in the road... So what - there are millions - are we talking start of a pothole, a pothole, a donga, a sinkhole, or a portal to china? Or are we talking a manhole (no Killa, resist the urge to joke about that one lol)? Depression describes one general symptom of many potential conditions/causes. Each solution posted in here has merit, finish and klaar.
 
Well that is where the cock up is, the thread title says depression and people are assuming anyone given drugs have a brain issue.

Talking about stuff does not change your thought process, it takes months to change from a negative person to a positive person because everything you did was negative now you have to force the positive out of the situations and eventually the force goes well away and you are naturally positive by nature. As you say there are so many forms of depression this thread is a bit of a cock up. Depression is vast i could be talking about mild and moderate while other people are talking about severe depression.

Yea each treatment has merit and whatever works for people is great.
 
killadoob said:
Calling it a disease should only happen when people are verified to have the disease, it should not be a disease until you have gone through the measures to ensure you have the disease. Being sad, down and having a negative outlook on life is not a disease unless proven without doubt it is your brain that has an issue.

If you don't grasp it then so be it. Mild to moderate depression in general can cured without drugs but i will get attacked for saying that no doubt :D. Helpful threads should not be about attacking people because they are suggesting something that works for some people.
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Hallelujah! He finally got it. Not everyone needs drugs. This is what we've been trying to tell you for the past few days....where have you been?
 
Hey Singal, stoppitman! Some of us sort our depression out with arguing on MyBB. Stop judging.
 
Singal said:
Hallelujah! He finally got it. Not everyone needs drugs. This is what we've been trying to tell you for the past few days....where have you been?
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Are you kidding me? LOL i have been saying that all along, then i was attacked because i said many people will recover using positive therapy.

Anyways finally the issue is sorted, depression is not a disease that should be treated straight up with drugs, make sure the patient needs the drugs first. I am one of those who didn't need drugs but was put on them so how could my point have been everyone needs them haha. O well.
 
IPX-SPX said:
Hey Singal, stoppitman! Some of us sort our depression out with arguing on MyBB. Stop judging.
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:wtf: who's arguing? We're finally agreeing on something.People really need to start reading and understanding posts before jumping in with a comment.
 
Singal said:
:wtf: who's arguing? We're finally agreeing on something.People really need to start reading and understanding posts before jumping in with a comment.
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I think in fairness we are all guilty of that sometimes, get so stuck on our points we actually end up figuring out we have been agreeing about the same while arguing about it :D.

Look it doesn't make it easy when you get people who come in start attacking, tuning people without making any valid points. Anyways glad to see things are chilled today :D.

Copa can update us on his progress, see how he goes. It might also be helpful for people to list what they have and what they on are on and how they are feeling. People who have recovered or are in recovery making a post explaining how they did it. Arguing about depression when there are so many forms seems like a pointless exercise unless we identify which one we are discussing :D.
 
Singal said:
:wtf: who's arguing? We're finally agreeing on something.People really need to start reading and understanding posts before jumping in with a comment.
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I should have included the ;) in my post
 
Humberto said:
When I quit Zoloft a few months ago I had a constant craving for chocolate. I was eating two slabs of chocolate a day at one stage. But it's over now.
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i told you it will pass :p
 
killadoob said:
Well positive thinking can cure depression for those who do not have a brain issue.

I don't take any drugs for anxiety or depression anymore on a daily basis, i only struggle a bit in a social situation, everyday life for me is fine. So if i go out twice a month to a function with a new people i use something to help me.

I have never said drugs are bad, i have said they should not be the first step but jeez we are rehashing it this over and over. spunky i thought it was done. I am not self confessed with anything bud, i just made some suggestions that people should look into because many people don't need drugs as a first step. You are the one who cannot handle that positive thinking or CBT type therapy has helped thousands of people. That is your issue not mine. I have no idea why people are upset with suggesting another form of treatment for people who may not need drugs but that is how the people are here. Nothing i can do about it.

Calling it a disease should only happen when people are verified to have the disease, it should not be a disease until you have gone through the measures to ensure you have the disease. Being sad, down and having a negative outlook on life is not a disease unless proven without doubt it is your brain that has an issue.

If you don't grasp it then so be it. Mild to moderate depression in general can cured without drugs but i will get attacked for saying that no doubt :D. Helpful threads should not be about attacking people because they are suggesting something that works for some people.
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This is relatively reasonable, but I must point out that this is not at all what your viewpoint suggested at the beginning of this discussion. In fact, a lot of what you are saying now, is stuff that many have been trying to convince you of throughout the thread.
 
killadoob said:
Copa can update us on his progress, see how he goes.
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Well, I had a bit of news years party, and have taken aboard some of the illicit substances I mentioned earlier.

Physical withdrawal from the medication seems to be finishing up, and in general, I am feeling okay, but I know this has a lot to do with the company I am keeping at the moment. :)
 
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