Depression.

Oh gosh .... I had the worst nightmare in my life last night. It seems with the doubling of the dose the vividness of my dreams (or in this case, hellish nightmares) have doubled also. I have never in my life experienced such a horrific, disturbing and upsetting dream before. I dont think I have ever been so happy to wake up in the morning and realize what was happening was just a nightmare. :eek:
 
Have any of you tried a psychedelic as a treatment for depression? Think there was a story on Psylocibin on carte blanche not too long ago

You need to be a certain state of mind for it, else it can cause you even more issues. Read a few times on reddit how people were using DMT as their first psychedelic and how they had depression for a few weeks afterwards, with some having to see doctors to get better.

Just stay safe and don't dose too much.
 
Oh gosh .... I had the worst nightmare in my life last night. It seems with the doubling of the dose the vividness of my dreams (or in this case, hellish nightmares) have doubled also. I have never in my life experienced such a horrific, disturbing and upsetting dream before. I dont think I have ever been so happy to wake up in the morning and realize what was happening was just a nightmare. :eek:

Are you taking your meds in the morning, or at night?
 
Are you taking your meds in the morning, or at night?

When I was on a single dose, I would take it in the afternoon when I get home. Was a bit easier for me to remember. I am not a morning person. But now that it has been doubled, she told me to rather not take two at once in the afternoon. Rather split it up and take one in the morning, and another in the evening or afternoon. Something to do with getting the levels level in my system or something to that effect.

Fck me copa .... this nightmare was really hectic. If that is what is bubbling in my subconcious then perhaps I should just leave the Wellbutrin and go check myself in at Groendakkies! :eek: I never EVER want a dream like that again ... but I suppose I am bound to.
 
When I was on a single dose, I would take it in the afternoon when I get home. Was a bit easier for me to remember. I am not a morning person. But now that it has been doubled, she told me to rather not take two at once in the afternoon. Rather split it up and take one in the morning, and another in the evening or afternoon.

Fck me copa .... this nightmare was really hectic. If that is what is bubbling in my subconcious then perhaps I should just leave the Wellbutrin and go check myself in at Groendakkies! :eek: I never EVER want a dream like that again ... but I suppose I am bound to.

My recommendation would definitely be to take the full dose in the morning, due to precisely this issue. I've had some corkers myself; As you say, getting in your car and going to a mental ward seems to be a sensible course of action after a medication fuelled nightmare.
 
My recommendation would definitely be to take the full dose in the morning, due to precisely this issue. I've had some corkers myself; As you say, getting in your car and going to a mental ward seems to be a sensible course of action after a medication fuelled nightmare.

I think I will keep to her instructions for a month, after which she said I must come see her again, or the original doctor that put me on it so that they can gauge how I am doing on it. If I keep on experiencing this then I will bring it up and ask if I could take both pills in the morning rather, because frankly those nightmares scares the living fck out of me. Well, scare is not really the right word. Deeply deeply DEEEEEEPLY disturbing and upsetting would be a better description.
 
I think I will keep to her instructions for a month, after which she said I must come see her again, or the original doctor that put me on it so that they can gauge how I am doing on it. If I keep on experiencing this then I will bring it up and ask if I could take both pills in the morning rather, because frankly those nightmares scares the living fck out of me. Well, scare is not really the right word. Deeply deeply DEEEEEEPLY disturbing and upsetting would be a better description.

Yes, absolutely do whatever your doctor says, but certainly enquire whether taking the full dose in the morning is suitable, if you keep having crazy dreams. At the least, take the other half earlier in the afternoon, rather than later, as far away from sleepy-time as possible.
 
Yes, absolutely do whatever your doctor says, but certainly enquire whether taking the full dose in the morning is suitable, if you keep having crazy dreams. At the least, take the other half earlier in the afternoon, rather than later, as far away from sleepy-time as possible.

That sounds like a plan batman.
 
When I was on a single dose, I would take it in the afternoon when I get home. Was a bit easier for me to remember. I am not a morning person. But now that it has been doubled, she told me to rather not take two at once in the afternoon. Rather split it up and take one in the morning, and another in the evening or afternoon. Something to do with getting the levels level in my system or something to that effect.

Fck me copa .... this nightmare was really hectic. If that is what is bubbling in my subconcious then perhaps I should just leave the Wellbutrin and go check myself in at Groendakkies! :eek: I never EVER want a dream like that again ... but I suppose I am bound to.
These sorts of dreams are ghastly - copacetic is right about time of day. Don't stress about what is bouncing around in your subconscious - have also had these mad mish-mashes of nightmares that have left me dreadfully unhappy and disturbed. Larium was the drug that caused mine - and what also precipitated a series of the most intense anxiety attacks. If you weren't disturbed by the nightmares then THAT would be disturbing. Sterkte Ockie!
 
You need to be a certain state of mind for it, else it can cause you even more issues. Read a few times on reddit how people were using DMT as their first psychedelic and how they had depression for a few weeks afterwards, with some having to see doctors to get better.

Just stay safe and don't dose too much.

This is what I read as well, but if you're generally disposed to being negative / melancholic / apathetic (is there such a word) then HOW are you supposed to be in a good frame of mind?

I would think, just dont try it when feeling overly anxious or MORE negative than usual

Them mushrooms look promising
 
These sorts of dreams are ghastly - copacetic is right about time of day. Don't stress about what is bouncing around in your subconscious - have also had these mad mish-mashes of nightmares that have left me dreadfully unhappy and disturbed. Larium was the drug that caused mine - and what also precipitated a series of the most intense anxiety attacks. If you weren't disturbed by the nightmares then THAT would be disturbing. Sterkte Ockie!

Thank you. Ja .... I just need to brush it off .... but have not been able to get it out of my head the whole damn day. Also, I am one of those people that just dont dream. Before going on the meds I cant actually remember the last time I had a dream. So this very very strange to me.
 
This is what I read as well, but if you're generally disposed to being negative / melancholic / apathetic (is there such a word) then HOW are you supposed to be in a good frame of mind?

I would think, just dont try it when feeling overly anxious or MORE negative than usual

Them mushrooms look promising

This is certainly one of the reasons I have always shied away from hallucinogenic drugs - I've never felt that my mind was in the right place. I've used mushrooms once or twice (sub-intense visuals doses), and while somewhat pleasant, it caused a level of anxiety I would not want to experience in the middle of a real trip.

I think I'm just not meant to be a spaceman...
 
Thank you. Ja .... I just need to brush it off .... but have not been able to get it out of my head the whole damn day. Also, I am one of those people that just dont dream. Before going on the meds I cant actually remember the last time I had a dream. So this very very strange to me.
My Larium nightmares were many, many years ago and I still remember them - one in particular. One of the things that helped me to come to terms with what was buzzing in my subconscious was to realise that everything gets stored there. Grim photos from news, thoughts, stories, etc. Part of depression is also suppression of stuff. Once these things start being "liberated" they start bubbling out in various ways. I loathe watching horror movies - I think the last one I watched was Se7en (when it came out) - and that is about as bad as I can watch - so for me the nightmares were even more grim because they were like the worse kind of horror movie.

Something also occurred to me - did you double up the dose immediately? Maybe step back down to your "old dose" or even to one and 1/2 times your "old dose" - and stick there for a few days, then only step up to the double dose.
 
Thank you. Ja .... I just need to brush it off .... but have not been able to get it out of my head the whole damn day. Also, I am one of those people that just dont dream. Before going on the meds I cant actually remember the last time I had a dream. So this very very strange to me.
Everybody dreams.

What happens is that people wake up in the middle and can then recall the dream. For some reason the memory of it fades rapidly for me, which is interesting.

If you sleep soundly then you won't even remember having one - or so the theory goes.
 
Everybody dreams.

What happens is that people wake up in the middle and can then recall the dream. For some reason the memory of it fades rapidly for me, which is interesting.

If you sleep soundly then you won't even remember having one - or so the theory goes.

I suppose. As a adult I have always been one to go to sleep and then what feels a few seconds later wake up and the time in between is just a blank. No dreams. I went through a bad stage last year where I would wake up every morning @ 02:00. Give or take 10 minutes. Even then no dreams. /shrug
 
From reading this I actually have to conclude that I have never been "depressed" as per your definitions here. Every time I thought I was depressed it was caused by an external source (business issues, financial, relatioship, etc). If I have nothing to be "depressed" about, I'm not depressed, I'm my usual ass hole self. :whistle:

It's just a difficult concept for some of us who aren't actually depressed to grasp. You always want to ask the question "Why are you depressed, what's wrong?"
 
From reading this I actually have to conclude that I have never been "depressed" as per your definitions here. Every time I thought I was depressed it was caused by an external source (business issues, financial, relatioship, etc). If I have nothing to be "depressed" about, I'm not depressed, I'm my usual ass hole self. :whistle:

It's just a difficult concept for some of us who aren't actually depressed to grasp. You always want to ask the question "Why are you depressed, what's wrong?"

Indeed - External situations obviously influence a person's mood, but clinical depression is a chemical **** up of some sort, which has nothing intrinsically to do with external sources. Obviously though, your reaction to what life throws at you is very much coloured by what is going on internally, and serious depression makes it all the more complicated.
 
Them mushrooms look promising

I am weary of mushrooms. Had a few the first and got the giggles. Was great fun. Then the second time I ended up being unable to move while everything in my vision was melting. This lasted around 3 hours.
 
Update:

I think my doctor doubling my daily dose was the right thing to do. I am feeling much better, I actually am happy when I should be happy instead of just pretending and going through the motions. It was working before, but it was very up and down. Then it seems to have a effect and then it goes again. Now it seems to be stable. Anxiety have settled down and my explosive rage outbursts seems to have quieten down also. Admittedly she did put me on anti anxiety meds just to get me past the stage were the Wellburtin levels get where they are supposed to be. Those have run out now, so will see. Just in case I got myself some Prozen just in case.
 
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