Depression.

TJ99 said:
Hmm, I think you mean fatigue/tiredness/frustration.

If you have depression, you go to sleep feeling like absolute crap, (usually after being awake for hours in bed trying to get to sleep) and wake up, late, still feeling like crap or even worse than before and having to force yourself with everything you have, to get up. At least that's how I understand it, because that's whatever I have.
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I though that was just called "having to go to work" :p.
 
DigitalSoldier said:
Could also be Bipolar.

A few people I know felt like that and they were all diagnosed with Bipolar at some stage.
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Yes, but Bipolar people go through manic stages as well, which is the exact opposite. I don't have those...

Insomnia and low energy levels alone don't mean you have depression of course, I was just explaining that sleep doesn't make you magically feel better.
 
Proud of you copa, you're a great guy and you've turned out great in my eyes, even if you feel like life may not always be :)

I need to get some money together so i can go and see a doctor too
 
Copa, hats off to you for the courage to reveal yourself. It takes real guts, and real love to share your experience so others can learn and find a path to dealing with it.

You advice about proper diagnosis (psychologist, and psychiatrist for the meds) is sage.

Ave.
 
journeytothelight said:
By crap, do you mean unhappy or phiscally ill ?

And do you have to force yourself out of bed, because you don't want to or because you feel ill ?
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Tired, not in the mood to get up, melancholic, feel like there's no point etc. Or you know there is a point (you'll get fired if you don't go to work), and you really want to care, but you just can't.
And yes sometimes physically as well, stomach pain, back pains etc. But the difficulty in getting up is mostly due to not having the energy or desire.

Again, like I said this could be a symptom of many different conditions, which is what my GP always says when I ask him. It's like he wants to test me for anything except depression.
 
What puzzle me is. When doctors ask me Are you Clinicly depressed?

How the fark should I know? is there a diffrent kind?

I know how I feel. I know I should not. Does that help?

They give me the stinky eye and give me meds. Which takes away all my "milaness", and I end up not liking myself... again.

Fark.

Thanx for your post :)
 
Hiya , I applaud you. Having been through mostly what you said I know its extremely difficult to open up. Nowadays though I find speaking about it helps alot. I think there is nothing wrong with seeking and asking for help , the biggest hurdle is to admit to yourself that you need help.

Not many understand depression , some think you need to watch a comedy and then u cured , others reckon you must have more faith in your creator and pray. The truth is you can be very happy and successful with family and friends , heck you might even be the life of the party and still have demons.

Its the worst sickness there is cos unlike a broken arms or flu the symptoms are invisible to others and you cannot just make it go away. Its also the easiest thing to fall back into.

I am not ashamed to say have OCD which led to depression and extreme anxiety , a year ago i spent 3 weeks in a facility and it was the best move I could make. I am lucky though , I have an amazing support group of people. Others are not so lucky. Peeps I urge you if you ever come across someone that seems depressed , don't judge , try and be supportive even though you don't understand.

Once again , thanks for sharing , you made my day !!
 
copacetic said:
Just be very careful with the Alzam. Benzodiazepines are very effective at helping with anxiety, but you do not want to use them every day, for a long term period (more than 4 weeks or so at a time).

Using them every now and again when you need is fine, or for a short consecutive period. They are extremely addictive, and very, VERY hard to get off of.
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great stuff , I was about to say the same. Benzo's as they are known is not recommended for long periods , I use them in extreme cases like about 4 weeks ago I was involved in a car crash where the car I was travelling in hit a drunk guy running over the road , it was not a lekka thing and triggered alot of the anxiety issues I have when driving. The Alzam's work like a bomb but I had to force myself off from them after a few days. When you access to meds you must try and be responsible , I know not easy. The best thing is to give it to a partner and ask them for access to it. My wife hides mine and this way we make sure I cannot take too much.
 
TJ99 said:
Hmm, I think you mean fatigue/tiredness/frustration.

If you have depression, you go to sleep feeling like absolute crap, (usually after being awake for hours in bed trying to get to sleep) and wake up, late, still feeling like crap or even worse than before and having to force yourself with everything you have, to get up. At least that's how I understand it, because that's whatever I have.
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Not fatigue but extreme negativity, a sense of foreboding and despair so you decide to sleep it off instead of taking drastic measures like taking drugs and alcohol.

Somehow your brain deals with depression like fighting an illness and you feel better afterwards.

You cant go lower than the lowest point of depression.Mind wont allow it.
Survival mech kicks in.
 
DrYes said:
Ever slept feeling like absolute crap and then woke up feeling like a million dollars.

We need depression to revitalise us.
Embrace it.
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Actually for me sleep did not help at all. I just wanted to sleep more. The weeks leading up to the time I was admitted to a clinic I slept basically every available hour of the day. All it did was make me wanna sleep more.
 
sparticus said:
Actually for me sleep did not help at all. I just wanted to sleep more. The weeks leading up to the time I was admitted to a clinic I slept basically every available hour of the day. All it did was make me wanna sleep more.
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you shouldn't sleep to get rid of it but rather hope that a good nights sleep will sort it out.

even when not depressed over-sleeping is not a good thing.
 
DrYes said:
Not fatigue but extreme negativity, a sense of foreboding and despair so you decide to sleep it off instead of taking drastic measures like taking drugs and alcohol.

Somehow your brain deals with depression like fighting an illness and you feel better afterwards.

You cant go lower than the lowest point of depression.Mind wont allow it.
Survival mech kicks in.
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I don't think you get it. Saying sleep cures depression is a bit pointless since it makes you unable to sleep normally/enough in the first place. Also see what others are saying, even if it did work, it's not as simple as just watching a comedy/having a religion/sleeping.
 
TJ99 said:
I don't think you get it. Saying sleep cures depression is a bit pointless since it makes you unable to sleep normally/enough in the first place. Also see what others are saying, even if it did work, it's not as simple as just watching a comedy/having a religion/sleeping.
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correct.But if you do manage a good night sleep you feel a lot better that you did the previous night.
surely that a start to recovery.
 
DrYes said:
correct.But if you do manage a good night sleep you feel a lot better that you did the previous night.
surely that a start to recovery.
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Sorry , I dont mean to sound harsh but I think maybe you are naive here. A good nights rest did absolutely nothing for me. I could be wrong but I think that would be the general response from anyone who experienced depression. If not apologies.
 
It works for me. It doesn't last but it helps. After weeks of sleeping 2 - 3 hours, being down and out an good 8- 10 hours makes me feel much better.
 
sparticus said:
Sorry , I dont mean to sound harsh but I think maybe you are naive here. A good nights rest did absolutely nothing for me. I could be wrong but I think that would be the general response from anyone who experienced depression. If not apologies.
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were you chronically depressed or just had a reaction from post traumatic stress.

there's a difference.
 
Best advice on suicidal feelings. Take a nap. You do feel less like >insert your method < when you had a good rest.

It works.
I have a few of those... Just a bit of comfort.

People joke about me and showers and baths. Mila's Moto. Take one. You always feel better :D
 
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