Dial-up is dead

we still have 700 Thousand dial up users? Dear me..

It seems people aren't really becoming informed at all, how could they if there is no access to affordable information to begin with.. Now if Telkom gets away with encouraging customers to use dial up, wouldn't corporations like Vodacom and MTN also take advantage of them by charging that lovely R2 per megabyte price ?


It is nice to hear about a better package cellular operators might have, but the chance for these to get promoted in a shop is less than likely.
 
" any old cellphone " maybe if the PC is running on XP - Motorolas will run low tech and 98 - but you are going to battle with most others - what worries me is the people leaving smaller ISPs and going to Telkom - unmetered local calls still need to be happen for other reasons - would think dial-up will be down to 500K very soon - looking at Telkom's figures they are losing traffic very fast, they think that the solution is mobile, and cannot wake up to the fact that people have had enough of them - the game is up
 
Art2 said:
I will try to avoid the personal nature of the criticism, but think it important to point out that such criticisms tend to look at the original statement (that is being attacked) without its context, and leaps onto a single comment with no context or nuance. I will also try to avoid making capital out of the incorrect spelling of a surname by someone who is putting up a fierce argument based on the meaning of words.
So here is the context: dial-up is on a steeply declining usage curve, with its overall product life cycle matching almost precisely the classic technology product life cycle curve. It is firmly on the downward slope now, making it inevitable that it will be phased out as a commercial offering in the next few years, while still available by arrangement. This means that, effectively, it is dead. I can't imagine why anyone would want to argue this point, except as a point-scoring exercise.
Arthur
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What personal attack? What point-scoring exercise?

The statement was that "dial-up is dead" and I pointed out that according to your own numbers, 35% (a big slice in any statician's book) is still using it. So it's not dead.

By all means say it's declining rapidly, that would make sense.

WiMax is showing a negative growth relative to WCDMA. Shall we say "WiMax is Dead"?

Apologies for the misspelling of your name. An honest mistake, but it seems it hit a bit of a nerve there? :D
 
PeterCH said:
With the R7 weekend and consistent speeds of 5K per second and up, I could download
400MB per 24 hours or 800MB per weekend back in '98-2006. Every evening one could do (and did) about 100MB. That's about 5-6GB per month downloaded. I'm sorry, a 3G
5GB package in 2004 cost what??? Yeah I thought so. The issue here is the issue of a cap. The R7 callmore thing and cheap R75-120 dialup access pm made it wortwhile.
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If you're a download slut (like you and me ;)), the call-more thing worked well. On 128K ISDN you could get 128kb/s for a whole weekend for R14/R22. And no shaping!

But I suspect a fraction of a percentage of people who use dial-up would be using this type of setup. Rather it would be your ad-hoc user still on dial-up, so a perfect application for GPRS.

(disclaimer: personal opinion) I believe there is a place for a low cost / low speed solution for this market. But ic fought so hard to have speed-based tariffs removed a few years ago, that it was put on ice. ;) :)
 
Art2 said:
I will try to avoid the personal nature of the criticism, but think it important to point out that such criticisms tend to look at the original statement (that is being attacked)

I can't imagine why anyone would want to argue this point, except as a point-scoring exercise.
Arthur
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Never mind Art2 - V3G is legend...

There is even a song!!!

might even be in the next show

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DragonLogos said:
Never mind Art2 - V3G is legend...

There is even a song!!!

might even be in the next show

V3G
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Hey cool! :D My first song! I've arrived! :D

I'm truly impressed. I've sent it to all my friends! Hope you don't mind?

For the record, I've got no problem if people get upset if obvious holes in their arguments are pointed out. And that they get aggressive and don't want to debate, but then that's how some people are. :rolleyes:
 
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