Diwali Fireworks

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Cool so you apply different standards now. Now it's no longer an issue of legality. Now it's personal responsibility. But you don't apply said standards until a human is injured.

The hypocrisy is strong here...
 
when a dog is injured thats the owner's fault.
when a kid is injured thats the parents fault.

where is the hypocrisy ?
 
Because it's personal responsibility of the firework owner. There's a plethora of scenarios in which the parents might not be at fault but rather the firework user being so. So the ultimate responsibility lies with the firework owner, and on occasion that might be the parent. Say, someone doesn't have a proper seating of the firework and the rocket blows sideways. There are many scenarios to be had here.

So by your logic the firework owner is exonerated of all responsibility. It doesn't have to be a kid injured either. It could be anyone.

Your logic is severely flawed and perfectly illustrates your hypocritical stance on this matter.

Firework users are never to blame. Only those who got hurt, or their parents. And always dog owners. That's your logic. It is so pathetically stupid that it should carry its own sign...
 
So If I let person A drive my car and he kills person B would that be my fault?
 
RiaX said:
lol read an article in the paper about a kid that his/her face off. Really now who lets a 12 year old play with fireworks with no supervision and lets a 12 year old go investigate an malfunctioned firework .....

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RiaX said:
ah force of habit. I usually type lol when chat about something stupid. Yeah its not funny my bad
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erm, chatting about someone getting their face blown off is a lol?
 
RiaX said:
So If I let person A drive my car and he kills person B would that be my fault?
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Both of you would be at fault. This is why logistics companies usually make their drivers sign some form of waiver excusing them of any responsibility.
 
BigAl-sa said:
erm, chatting about someone getting their face blown off is a lol?
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you get used to it. Sad but true. Ive seen horrors far worse than this on a daily basis desensitises you to things like this
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Both of you would be at fault. This is why logistics companies usually make their drivers sign some form of waiver excusing them of any responsibility.
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assuming the car is in perfect road worthy condition and the accident is due to driver error.

I was about to talk about this. When transport companies give their driver unworthy vehicles and he takes out people at an intersection (pinetown accident) is it really the driver's fault ?

the company gave him that vehicle and they plotted his route to take. You dont blame the operator
 
RiaX said:
assuming the car is in perfect road worthy condition and the accident is due to driver error.
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Doesn't matter, you're the licensed owner. You wouldn't let your mate borrow your firearm.
 
RiaX said:
So If I let person A drive my car and he kills person B would that be my fault?
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You evidently do not grasp the concept of analogies. This one has no bearing or equivalency to the issue at hand...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Doesn't matter, you're the licensed owner. You wouldn't let your mate borrow your firearm.
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does. You can lend someone your car. You cant lend someone your licensed firearm. I will not be sitting in court explaining why person B died ... the driver of my car will. It would be different if i lent my car to an unlicensed or unlawful driver
 
DJ... said:
You evidently do not grasp the concept of analogies. This one has no bearing or equivalency to the issue at hand...
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you pushing the responsibility where it does not belong.

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Fireworks are legal. They have instructions you allowed certain fireworks. Fireworks must be lit in the presence of an adult in the case of minors. Hence its not the firework nor the operator of the firework that is to blame
 
SYNERGY said:
Warzone here, it's only 1 day a year thou.
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It is day 7 by me. I am Not too bothered though as I don't have a dog and my baby is like me, able to sleep through an earthquake. I do sympathise with the OP's plight however and have to agree, that the big fireworks are for a wide open space or event. The small ones are for residential areas.
 
What?! You realise that one uses an analogy when it is required to illustrate a point. Your analogy is not required. In this case we have real world examples to work with. The moment I point out the hypocrisy of your stance, you refuse to acknowledge it and move on to absurd analogies...
 
RiaX said:
you pushing the responsibility where it does not belong.

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Fireworks are legal. They have instructions you allowed certain fireworks. Fireworks must be lit in the presence of an adult in the case of minors. Hence its not the firework nor the operator of the firework that is to blame
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Lol. Fscking lol. The firework user is never to blame. There we have it.

My lord. What a stupid thing to say...
 
Stop discussing the car thing. It has no bearing on this debate. It is so far removed from an equivalent analogy that it requires the destruction of brain cells to make it fit for a reply...
 
Love fireworks. But I hate the effect it has on animals.

The only time its a problem here is around Christmas & new year.

Bit of a catch22. One has to respect people's religions though.
 
So if your dog gets scared jumps in the pool and drowns how is that the fault of the fireworks ? The law clearly specifies how you have to house your animal. If you do not abide by that regulation you have no right to push the blame elsewhere.

its quite simple actually. The analogy makes perfect sense.

similarly if someone else drives your car and breaks the law you are not responsible for those actions as the owner of the vehicle provided the vehicle is roadworthy
 
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DJ... said:
Lol. Fscking lol. The firework user is never to blame. There we have it.

My lord. What a stupid thing to say...
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no they have the responsibility to ensure correct usage of fireworks. That is all
 
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